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01-04-2017, 01:17 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Oregon
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Go Hard Wired. Can't get misplaced or stolen, don't have to buy a lock and locking collar, don't have drag it out and plug it into the pole then plug the cable into it. The fewer connection you have the less chance of creating a higher resistance spot in the line thus keeping the current draw down. Not effected by rain because it's not in the rain.
You can also, on most of them, get a remote display to put in the MH so you can monitor what is going on.
OL I'm done
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01-04-2017, 08:43 AM
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Also, the hard wired one (with remote display) has a bypass switch. If for some reason, the SP is not working, you can bypass it. I believe if the circuit board sacrifices itself to protect your coach, you can flip the switch until you get another board. You will not be able to find better customer service than Progressive Industries. Hard wired, no fuss, no mess. It's always there.
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01-04-2017, 04:12 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Homosassa, Fl.
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I just installed the EMS-HW50C in my Bounder 35 under a drawer. There were two sets of three drawers above the transfer switch.I removed all the drawers. It was very tight, but I was able to fit the box in. The really hard part is working with the 50 amp wires. They are thick and very hard to work with. The good part is that once it is in, it can't be stolen or damaged by rain.
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01-04-2017, 05:56 PM
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Senior Member
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Can a Progressive hard wired protector be installed by someone with little electrical experience or is an electrician needed?
And maybe a dumb question but if a portable unite works in the bay, why hard wire? Is it to get the monitor for inside the coach?
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01-04-2017, 06:10 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Southern NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WyoFree
Can a Progressive hard wired protector be installed by someone with little electrical experience or is an electrician needed?
And maybe a dumb question but if a portable unite works in the bay, why hard wire? Is it to get the monitor for inside the coach?
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Yes, instructions are included, hardest part is manipulated the wire inside to the connectors.
I bought the hardwire one for the reason you just stated, I can see how many amps I am pulling while im inside the RV
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01-04-2017, 10:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Go with Progressive hard wired. Don't keep fooling with a portable unit and worry about someone stealing it. There is plenty of room to mount it. Get the remote readout also.
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01-05-2017, 05:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
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The amp meter, is it wired from the surge protector to the Amp readout with an actual wire? Or is it wifi connected like a TPMS?
Bymorris, you said something about a portable unit being stolen. How can it be stolen if you keep it in the coach end of the plugin, in the bay?
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01-05-2017, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WyoFree
The amp meter, is it wired from the surge protector to the Amp readout with an actual wire? Or is it wifi connected like a TPMS?
Bymorris, you said something about a portable unit being stolen. How can it be stolen if you keep it in the coach end of the plugin, in the bay?
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Hi WyoFree: Not to answer for Bymorris, but I can give you my opinion since I have experience with the portable version. These are designed to attach directly to the power post with a short male pigtail, at the end of your coach power cable. Many people have concerns that someone can steal the unit from the post, so a market developed for locking these to the post. I found that to be a hassle, and since I already have a 50' 50A extension cable that I use to connect at home, I just keep it attached to the extension cable so it never has to leave the coach bay. I could measure no voltage drop for routine use of the extension cable. In summary: I have a 30' power cable, with the surge protecter connected between this cable and a 50' 50A extension cable. When I pull up to a campsite power post, I just connect the extension cable end leaving the rest in the coach bay. I have not found it necessary to require interior readout, but understand there are those that do. Just my $ 0.02 :-)
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01-05-2017, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member
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Thanks for jumping in PackerPower,
Electrical confuses me anyway and as it pertains to a motorhome becomes an outright headache about permanent and portable!
Please will someone give me a YES or NO answer!!!
Can you take a portable surge protector, plug it in in the power bay and leave it there just like you would a permanent surge protector?
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01-05-2017, 10:14 AM
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#24
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
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01-05-2017, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Madison, WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WyoFree
Thanks for jumping in PackerPower,
Electrical confuses me anyway and as it pertains to a motorhome becomes an outright headache about permanent and portable!
Please will someone give me a YES or NO answer!!!
Can you take a portable surge protector, plug it in in the power bay and leave it there just like you would a permanent surge protector?
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Yes - as long as you have an extension cord to reach the power post.
Edit to correct: I have a 30' 50A Camco extension cord, see this link: https://www.amazon.com/Camco-55195-E...extension+cord
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01-06-2017, 11:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sedona, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WyoFree
Thanks for jumping in PackerPower,
Electrical confuses me anyway and as it pertains to a motorhome becomes an outright headache about permanent and portable!
Please will someone give me a YES or NO answer!!!
Can you take a portable surge protector, plug it in in the power bay and leave it there just like you would a permanent surge protector?
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The only issue is that the plugs may be different. I have the marine locking-type 50A plug in my bay and the only portable I can find is for boats.
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01-08-2017, 03:49 AM
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Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Box elder, SD
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Are they needed
I have been searching the Internet to try to find some statistics on whether or not surge protectors are needed. I've been RVing for 16 years and never had a problem nor have I talk to anybody that's had a problem because of a surge. I would install a surge protector if I could just find some evidence one would be necessary so far I haven't. I would love to hear from those who have had a problem with surge that don't own a surge protector thanks
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01-08-2017, 07:25 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
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