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03-03-2015, 10:40 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Suspension Improvements
I have a 2004 Winnebago Brave. I am new to RV. I have only taken one trip, and it was very hard to control. A little research has indicated that I need to do some suspension improvements. But am confused as to shocks or air suspension, if shocks should I do Koni or Bilstein. Any help is appreciated.
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03-03-2015, 11:34 AM
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Triple E Owners Club
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What chassis do you have, Ford or GM?
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03-03-2015, 11:49 AM
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Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by Occhiline
I have a 2004 Winnebago Brave. I am new to RV. I have only taken one trip, and it was very hard to control. A little research has indicated that I need to do some suspension improvements. But am confused as to shocks or air suspension, if shocks should I do Koni or Bilstein. Any help is appreciated.
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You need to (Must) spend time in the Ford Chassis section on this forum, you will learn plenty on how to improve the handling of your coach. The CHF is the first thing to do, it takes 30 minutes and you will notice a big improvement. After that there are many things you can do, all of them are topics in the Ford Chassis section. Remember that a combination of things will have the best results, not just one thing but several.
You can get that box to feel like a sports car if you want to spend the money.
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Phillip, AZ, 2013 Fleetwood Storm, Roadmaster Front Stabilizer, Koni FSD Front Shocks, DIY Rear Track Bar, CHF, 5 Star Tune, 2010 Kia Soul Toad
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03-04-2015, 01:41 PM
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Originally Posted by RodK
What chassis do you have, Ford or GM?
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It is a GM
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03-04-2015, 01:44 PM
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by usinvestment
You need to (Must) spend time in the Ford Chassis section on this forum, you will learn plenty on how to improve the handling of your coach. The CHF is the first thing to do, it takes 30 minutes and you will notice a big improvement. After that there are many things you can do, all of them are topics in the Ford Chassis section. Remember that a combination of things will have the best results, not just one thing but several.
You can get that box to feel like a sports car if you want to spend the money.
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I have a Chevy, I have been browsing and have learned a lot. Koni shocks are on the way. Thank you for your quick reply.
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03-04-2015, 01:47 PM
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Originally Posted by Doggy Daddy
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I have ordered the shocks and will be looking at the steering stab and anti sway. Thank you for your help.
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03-05-2015, 06:03 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Apple Valley CA
Posts: 1,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Occhiline
I have a 2004 Winnebago Brave. I am new to RV. I have only taken one trip, and it was very hard to control. A little research has indicated that I need to do some suspension improvements. But am confused as to shocks or air suspension, if shocks should I do Koni or Bilstein. Any help is appreciated.
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Go to the Workhorse Chassis forum and you will learn a lot. Yes Shocks are part of it. The W-20 and W-22 Chassis has an issue called the tail wagging the dog. The best bet is install a trac bar. At least on the rear axle. Here are a few web sites to give you a hand.
https://ultrarvproducts.com/store/in...tegory&path=34
https://www.brazelsrv.com/
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f22/workh...ons-71705.html
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Toad: 2017 GMC Canyon 4X4 Crewcab
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03-07-2015, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by usinvestment
You can get that box to feel like a sports car if you want to spend the money.
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I'd say that's a bit of an overstatement. Yes you can drastically improve the handling but a big box motorhome will never handle like a sports cars. I've upgraded my 32' class A with front and rear sway bars, rear trac bar, Safe T Plus and Koni FSD shocks. It handles much better and safer, but no where near like my 2014 Mustang "sports car".
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03-08-2015, 07:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Good advice. Way back when we had our new 1976 motorhome, my wife placed a little sticker on the dashboard stating "I am not an Alfa Romeo". When I got a little frisky driving, she would lean over and vigorously tap the sticker...
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Originally Posted by Camper Ken
I'd say that's a bit of an overstatement. Yes you can drastically improve the handling but a big box motorhome will never handle like a sports cars. I've upgraded my 32' class A with front and rear sway bars, rear trac bar, Safe T Plus and Koni FSD shocks. It handles much better and safer, but no where near like my 2014 Mustang "sports car".
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2005 Safari (Monaco)Trek 28RB2, Workhorse W20, 8.1, Allison 1000 5 spd, UltraPower engine & tranny, Track bars & sway bars, KONI FSD, FMCA 190830, Safari Int'l. chapter. 1999 Safari Trek 2830, 1995 Safari Trek 2430, 1983 Winnebago Chieftain, 1976 Midas Mini
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03-08-2015, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
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First ensure tire pressures are set per weight, alignment is correct, no worn or damaged suspension / steering components, etc. Be sure all the stock stuff is right before throwing aftermarket parts at it.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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03-08-2015, 11:30 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
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See this article in the FILES section concerning Motorhome Handling Improvements:
iRV2 Forums - Files - Motorhome Handling Problems & Solutions
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Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
Home is West Palm Beach, FL
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03-16-2015, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,473
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Occhiline
I have a Chevy, I have been browsing and have learned a lot. Koni shocks are on the way. Thank you for your quick reply.
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DW and I just installed new Koni shocks on the front of our coach. It's not a tough DIY job, although getting the bolts loose is a bit of a chore.
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03-29-2015, 10:29 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 26
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Swinging
I have a Fleetwood Southwind 32V and replaced the shocks and upgraded the factory Workshorse swap bar. Helped a little. I think the springs are 2 soft for one thing. My old Dodge based Holliday Rambler handled better. Drove a small Holiday Rambler Diesel pusher and it was worse.
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