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Old 10-31-2015, 07:47 AM   #29
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Ridiculous cat and mousing. Experienced, good people are trying to help. Being a Mechanical Engineer surely you can figure a simple bearing problem out. Why bother others with your "Ghost Machine" ?
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Story here 2005 Fleetwood Expedition - Fan Hub Assembly clutch failure


You are a Mech Eng, that inspected the rig, it sound like you are try to blame a salesman for knowing of the failure, and hiding it from you. I am not an ME or salesman, but I do know what a bad bearing sounds like, but have never been able to predict there failure, with out knowing there history.
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I am not sure about your insurance company but ever police I have ever got on my MH included roadside assistance. I also carry Good Sam assistance, both are less than 20% of your bill. Sue your insurance company for not providing towing.
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Story here 2005 Fleetwood Expedition - Fan Hub Assembly clutch failure


You are a Mech Eng, that inspected the rig, it sound like you are try to blame a salesman for knowing of the failure, and hiding it from you. I am not an ME or salesman, but I do know what a bad bearing sounds like, but have never been able to predict there failure, with out knowing there history.
The point is, if there was a bad bearing (as we now all know there was) and he did not disclose that.

I'm a mechanical engineer, I am not a mechanic and this is the first RV I've owned. There are many kinds, all with different quirks (for those who are adamant about requiring year/make/model, this proves my point). I would not have been capable of pinpointing an issue with the coach other than my question about the vibration felt in one particular spot of the bedroom floor, which the dealership owner explained away as too low of an idle speed.

The dealer knew there was an issue, and glossed over it. It's not a matter of predicting failure, it's a matter of full and fair disclosure.
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The point is, if there was a bad bearing (as we now all know there was) and he did not disclose that.

I'm a mechanical engineer, I am not a mechanic and this is the first RV I've owned. There are many kinds, all with different quirks (for those who are adamant about requiring year/make/model, this proves my point). I would not have been capable of pinpointing an issue with the coach other than my question about the vibration felt in one particular spot of the bedroom floor, which the dealership owner explained away as too low of an idle speed.

The dealer knew there was an issue, and glossed over it. It's not a matter of predicting failure, it's a matter of full and fair disclosure.
You are giving the dealer WAY more credit than 99.999% are due. He likely had no more idea that bearing was going than you did.

Stuff happens. Deal with it, and move on.
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The point is, if there was a bad bearing (as we now all know there was) and he did not disclose that.

I'm a mechanical engineer, I am not a mechanic and this is the first RV I've owned. There are many kinds, all with different quirks (for those who are adamant about requiring year/make/model, this proves my point). I would not have been capable of pinpointing an issue with the coach other than my question about the vibration felt in one particular spot of the bedroom floor, which the dealership owner explained away as too low of an idle speed.

The dealer knew there was an issue, and glossed over it. It's not a matter of predicting failure, it's a matter of full and fair disclosure.
A quick research indicates that there are Hub Bearing issues beginning @ 50,00 plus miles on your series of Engine. Your Hub bearing may have been addressed at some point and past and due for another @ or around 145,000 plus miles or so.
Requesting Data will not help nor assist you to form a Conclusion on the issue at hand. So you have 2 options !
1-- Sue the Dealer
2- Repair the Engine Hub Bearing and move down the road.
We understand the frustrations your dealing with--Trust me as most of us have been there.
Let us know what you decide!
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I have owned my coach for almost 7 years now and am only now getting to recognize any odd sound or vibration. Any diesel engine will run with vibration at a lower RPM and it would have been difficult to pin point the cause without some sort of diagnostic equipment, expertise, and time.

What happen to you is unfortunate. Hopefully the final cost will be less then initial quote. If you have a rear radiator this does explain some of the hours. Also, the shops will always estimate high to cover their butts.

I would also suggest that while the radiator is out you have it inspected and cleaned. Rear radiators are notorious for collecting dirt and hard to clean. Also have the CAC tested.

Good luck and hope once you get your rig back on the road you have many miles of incident free RVing.
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Does PPL not give a 30 day warranty.
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I have owned my coach for almost 7 years now and am only now getting to recognize any odd sound or vibration. Any diesel engine will run with vibration at a lower RPM and it would have been difficult to pin point the cause without some sort of diagnostic equipment, expertise, and time.

What happen to you is unfortunate. Hopefully the final cost will be less then initial quote. If you have a rear radiator this does explain some of the hours. Also, the shops will always estimate high to cover their butts.

I would also suggest that while the radiator is out you have it inspected and cleaned. Rear radiators are notorious for collecting dirt and hard to clean. Also have the CAC tested.

Good luck and hope once you get your rig back on the road you have many miles of incident free RVing.
I had the CAC and radiator flushed and cleaned while everything is disassembled. Also had hoses and belts inspected/replaced. Caught a frayed water pump belt in the process. While everything is apart, I'm also making a modification that a local owner of the exact same year/make/model made [adding an extension to the breather tube to drain away oil mist instead of it gunking up the CAC and radiator]. Oil changes all around as well.


Good grief I HOPE I have many miles of incident-free RVing as well. One more incident like this anytime in the near future, and it goes up for sale! I still can't believe the hours of labor for repairs exceed the hours I operated the stupid thing.
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it wasn't PPL
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I still can't believe the hours of labor for repairs exceed the hours I operated the stupid thing.
Why not? Is it hard to believe that things fail? That things are designed by engineers in some of the worst ways imaginable, usually because they don't have to work on them anyway?

Things fail, people fix them. You just happened to buy it right before it failed.

Honestly, it just sounds like you're mad that you had something break and it didn't happen to the previous owner.
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