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Old 03-27-2014, 11:27 AM   #29
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Texas DOES require a class A or B non CDL for GVWR over 26000#
For the A you are towing over a 10,000# trailer.
For the B you are towing less than 10,000# trailer or no trailer.

Up to 26,000# you are covered with a normal class C license.


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I had to upgrade to non CDL class A because of my trailer weight. I think the test for non CDL A and B are basically the same, so why not go ahead and get Class A in case you ever need to pull a trailer in the future? You will need to have a trailer rated for over 10,000 pounds for the driving test, but it can be empty.

I tested in Fredericksburg. I tried to hire a driver to take my rig to the DPS office, but it was nearly impossible for a reasonable rate. One driver emailed me and said not to worry about it. DPS usually will not ask and they hope you have the common sense not to tell them. So if they don't ask, you won't have to lie. (My examiner did not) There is a small chance you may have to though. And yes, you are taking a very small chance that if you have an accident, you will be held responsible without the proper drivers license and insurance may deny any claims.

You have to weigh the risk vs reward in life.

I did have to take the air brake test (my rig has air brakes) and I did have to back the trailer 100ft. We drove to a deserted empty road and she asked me if I could back up parallel to the curb. Just be prepared and get ready to enjoy new license. Your test may vary, good luck.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:56 AM   #30
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Why don't you go to a local truck driving school? They will provide the training required to pass the test and provide a vehicle for the test - all legal.
I don't know about the tests in Texas but in Ontario, Canada the driving part of the test was the easiest - the hard part is the safety inspection before the driving - get anything major wrong there and you fail before you even get in the vehicle. In Ontario there isn't a difference for commercial or RV driving it's all weight dependent and the licence issued is commercial.
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Why don't you go to a local truck driving school? They will provide the training required to pass the test and provide a vehicle for the test - all legal.
I don't know about the tests in Texas but in Ontario, Canada the driving part of the test was the easiest - the hard part is the safety inspection before the driving - get anything major wrong there and you fail before you even get in the vehicle. In Ontario there isn't a difference for commercial or RV driving it's all weight dependent and the licence issued is commercial.
That's what I did. We were picking up the RV at the factory, and I wanted the license before we left Texas. So I went to a CDL driving school and got a CDL B license. When my license came up for renewal, I downgraded it to a non-CDL B.

In hindsight, I wish I had done the Class A instead, as I would be legal to tow a big trailer now.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:48 PM   #32
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I agree with Flyer; just get the Class A license. Same price, renewal price, just more benefits.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:51 PM   #33
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In WA you don't need the class B endorsement, if the same in OR, have your DW drive the MH.
Get your class B and a week later you can take her to get hers.
The DW does drive the MH doesn't she?
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Texas requirements from the State DPS website. No need to argue over if it is or isn't required. Spells it out very clear!

https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/Driver.../dlClasses.htm
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I know it's negative thinking on my part, but I worry less about the code violation and more about the insurance liability
plications if the unthinkable were to happen. I wouldn't want to take that gamble if there was a way to keep clean and legal. Thanks, though...I probably worry too much!
Schedule your test for the day you are going to get the MH and ask the dealer to go with you. Should not be an issue.
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Texas requirements from the State DPS website. No need to argue over if it is or isn't required. Spells it out very clear! https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/Driver.../dlClasses.htm
You need to read the "fine print" it is quite clear in the passage attached below the a class B license is required if your coach weighs more tan 26,000 pounds.

. Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL but may need a Class A or Class B driver license are: Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use Some farmers who meet certain criteria Operators of cotton-seed modules or cotton burrs A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle operator Military vehicle operators Vehicles owned, leased or controlled by an air carrier For more information on exemptions, please refer to the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers Handbook.
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Folks are right that at least a Class B license is required if GVW is over 26,001 lbs. The OP is doing the right thing by trying to make sure he's legal to drive whatever RV he buys.

Like many others, I did not have the Class B when I bought my rig. I asked the salesman where I bought my RV about the need for a "special driver's license". I already knew the answer, but wanted to see what he would tell me. He told me about all the years he's been in the business and never needed anything but a standard Class C. Anyway, I test-drove RVs, and drove mine home when I bought it. I also took a couple of local trips. But, like the OP, I wanted to be legal, so I took the written test and made an appointment for the road test. I drove my RV to the test center. Like most others, I was not asked how it got there. The examiner was professional, courteous, and thorough. I did have to do the air brake test, but she walked me through it. I could have done it with no guidance, because I've driven air brake vehicles, and taught air system operation and troubleshooting. However, the examiner told me step-by-step how to do the test. She was only interested in determining that the RV would pass the test.

On the road test, I had to back up 100 feet. The examiner got out of the RV and spotted me. Then I had to parallel park, but only on the side of a road with no other vehicles present and no curb.

I commend Blackcabby for wanting to do the right thing. If he was close to my area, I would go with him to the test if that would make him feel better. If anyone out there needs a Class B licensed driver to accompany them to a test in my area (Hill County), I may be able to do that.
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You need to read the "fine print" it is quite clear in the passage attached below the a class B license is required if your coach weighs more tan 26,000 pounds. . Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL but may need a Class A or Class B driver license are: Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use Some farmers who meet certain criteria Operators of cotton-seed modules or cotton burrs A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle operator Military vehicle operators Vehicles owned, leased or controlled by an air carrier For more information on exemptions, please refer to the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers Handbook.
And your point is? Doesn't need a CDL, needs a class A or B license.
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And your point is? Doesn't need a CDL, needs a class A or B license.
yep that's why the dps office will give you a NON CDL class B license test.
Have no idea why dont at least have you do the air brake test, but its easy enough to do at home or in the campground, so your at least comfortable with what is going on.
it appears that each dmv license office interprets the actual driving test parts, as in parallel parking, backign 100 feet, rh turns, stopping with the front end not over the white line,

your issued license will look and feel the same except it will read Class B
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Folks are right that at least a Class B license is required if GVW is over 26,001 lbs. The OP is doing the right thing by trying to make sure he's legal to drive whatever RV he buys.

Like many others, I did not have the Class B when I bought my rig. I asked the salesman where I bought my RV about the need for a "special driver's license". I already knew the answer, but wanted to see what he would tell me. He told me about all the years he's been in the business and never needed anything but a standard Class C.
That just goes to show how misinformed a salesman can be. In addition, his employer is allowing him to break the law, and putting the dealership at huge risk. As a salesman, he is employed to drive RV's, and therefore needs to have a CDL. The testing officer the day I took mine, said their office is having a huge problem with the local RV dealer staff, not being able to pass the CDL tests. She also asked if "I could help teach the school bus drivers to parallel park". Her third comment had to do with all the oil field drivers failing to make the grade as well.

I too wish I had a trailer to have taken the upgraded "A" test, just thinking ahead of course.
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That just goes to show how misinformed a salesman can be. In addition, his employer is allowing him to break the law, and putting the dealership at huge risk. As a salesman, he is employed to drive RV's, and therefore needs to have a CDL. The testing officer the day I took mine, said their office is having a huge problem with the local RV dealer staff, not being able to pass the CDL tests. She also asked if "I could help teach the school bus drivers to parallel park". Her third comment had to do with all the oil field drivers failing to make the grade as well.

I too wish I had a trailer to have taken the upgraded "A" test, just thinking ahead of course.
Oh, by the way -- the salesman's lips were moving when he said you don't need a "special license".
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