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Old 03-28-2014, 02:19 PM   #43
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Just looking at this discussion and from two close friends who were (one still is) a Texas State Trooper, Class B is only needed in a for hire situation. I have a Class A, 28k+ pounds, asked my insurance (Progressive), Class B not needed; I called the DPS and they said it's not needed either. Probably the only reason to have one would be to comply with other states. BlackCabby - I live in North Houston and if I can help you out, please let me know.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:35 PM   #44
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I believe you are misreading the Texas Commercial Licensing Drivers Handbook. Texas exempts drivers of recreational vehicles driven for personal use from holding a Commercial Drivers License (CDL). CDL's, if required, are defined in the Class A, B, and C. categories, so if you needed a CDL (because you were driving for hire) then the A, B or C would be necessary depending upon which class of vehicle you were operating.
You can call the DPS and confirm this. In years of legal practice I have never seen or heard of a citation being given to a private owner operating any size motorhome. The only exception would be a hired chauffeur being paid to be a driver of a private motorhome. That person is a hired driver and must have the CDL.
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You are wrong! Unless being paid or operating in commerce Texas does not require anything but a regular drivers license.
I'm not sure what kind of law you have practiced, but as others have pointed out, you are the one who has misread the Texas code.

My situation was a bit different when I got my non commercial Class B in Livingston in 2010. I had a California license and needed to take the test for the Texas Class B. After taking the written test, they made an appointment for me the next day and I just drove the coach in to take the test. No questions asked.

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Just looking at this discussion and from two close friends who were (one still is) a Texas State Trooper, Class B is only needed in a for hire situation. I have a Class A, 28k+ pounds, asked my insurance (Progressive), Class B not needed; I called the DPS and they said it's not needed either. Probably the only reason to have one would be to comply with other states. BlackCabby - I live in North Houston and if I can help you out, please let me know.
I hope I never get pulled over by either of your friends (or your insurance agent) because they are all wrong. A class B CDL (Commercial Drivers License)or a class A CDL (Commercial Drivers License) is needed if you are driving for hire. If you are driving your RV for personal reasons then one would need the appropriate class license Class A or Class B depending on weight of said RV and weight of any trailer be pulled. Getting a license to comply with other states could mean one would possibly need 50 different licenses depending on how many states one wanted to drive through.
As a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) holder, I know it is illegal to posses a license from more than one state.
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A class B CDL (Commercial Drivers License)or a class A CDL (Commercial Drivers License) is needed if you are driving for hire. If you are driving your RV for personal reasons then one would need the appropriate class license Class A or Class B depending on weight of said RV and weight of any trailer be pulled. Getting a license to comply with other states could mean one would possibly need 50 different licenses depending on how many states one wanted to drive through.
As a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) holder, I know it is illegal to posses a license from more than one state.
I would just add that I believe a standard Class C license would be valid for driving the RV if the rig weighed in at <26K lbs and no heavy towing was planned.

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I would just add that I believe a standard Class C license would be valid for driving the RV if the rig weighed in at <26K lbs and no heavy towing was planned.

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I got my Class B just a couple months ago here in Texas. When we bought, I specifically asked the dealer if I needed a special license to drive. They said no, so I was on my way. Been driving the MH for over a year, then I started reading about the license. One week I took the test, the next week I drove up to the DPS and did the driving test. Passed both and now legal. Yes, it all depends on the weight for the class you need. I don't think I'd tow over 10k, so the B is all I need. Good luck with your quest!
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Texas DOES require a class B license to drive any vehicle over 26K#, and it happens to be a modified CDL (without the onerous maintenance requirements like drug testing, etc.) That said, I have "a friend" with a 33K#+ 41' motorhome who drives it all over the great state of Texas with some regularity and without a class B in hand - and, HE ALSO RUNS WITH SCISSORS IN HIS HAND (I know - the pointy kind!!!!) A famous person once said "It isn't illegal until you get caught" (might have been Tommy Chong now that I think about it).
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It's not a "modified CDL". It's a "non-CDL". The license itself reads "Class B" (or "Class A"), and there is no mention of CDL anywhere. If you have a CDL B, then the license says "Commercial Drivers License" across the top, and also says "Class B" (or "Class A") on it.

Well, to be completely accurate, mine says "Class BM" on it.
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That said, I have "a friend" with a 33K#+ 41' motorhome who drives it all over the great state of Texas with some regularity and without a class B in hand - and, HE ALSO RUNS WITH SCISSORS IN HIS HAND (I know - the pointy kind!!!!) A famous person once said "It isn't illegal until you get caught" (might have been Tommy Chong now that I think about it).
Very, very true.

I've read a post or two on this topic and don't really recall any which documented an actual problem created by someone in Texas not having the "appropriate" endorsement on their license. I do believe that the knowledge/understanding of this requirement is not well known nor understood by many/most working in DPS, etc. Nor have I ever heard of anyone having an accident claim denied by their insurance company because they didn't have the legally required endorsement.

As with so many things these days... it's just a personal choice.

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FlyingDiver has it right.

Last year I also took the test to upgrade my CM when I upgraded to a over 26,000# new coach. I signed the exemption form, to get a non CDL license. The clerk helping had to ask two other clerks what I was asking for first. The second one printed the form off for me to sign. My new license is a BM. The "M" is for the motorcycle endorsement I have had for 15 years.
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a note about insurance
I have farm bureau and when my policy renewed last year, my agent called me to verify my dl number. She copied it down
a few days later she calls me back and the underwriters gave me a discount for "licensing" I asked what that meant and she assumed it had to do with class of license for the rv. it moved my rv insurance into another CLASS in farm bureau and my rates dropped again.
not sure if it was a fluke or having the class b license.
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Interesting that people seem to understand they need a motorcycle license. Police will ticket you if you don't have that M endorsement. But then people think driving a RV would not require some sort of upgrade in Texas.

I read in some other state, that no special upgrade to license is needed to drive a RV, no matter what it weights.
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Interesting that people seem to understand they need a motorcycle license. Police will ticket you if you don't have that M endorsement. But then people think driving a RV would not require some sort of upgrade in Texas. I read in some other state, that no special upgrade to license is needed to drive a RV, no matter what it weights.
It would be a lot easier if states simply state you need an RV endorsement for any thing above the 26k and remove the non com which is confusing people. There are only 15 states that require non com licenses. Luckily my state is one that requires just a regular class c operators.
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It would be a lot easier if states simply state you need an RV endorsement for any thing above the 26k and remove the non com which is confusing people. There are only 15 states that require non com licenses. Luckily my state is one that requires just a regular class c operators.
Sure would be better. But we need to understand, laws and regs. written by committees, and lawyers.

I was stopped and given a warning in 1981, about 3 months after getting a new car. The dealer had installed the rear plate, and not the front since there were no mounting holes. The TX DPS trooper pulled out his book of regs and it was over 4" thick. Wonder how much thicker it might be today, some 33 years later? Texas just had a Supreme Court ruling last year about where the front plate and the "front" of the car was defined. It was related to a drug bust, from a front plate on the dash traffic stop that caught drugs being transported. The front is the most forward part of the vehicle.
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