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Old 08-11-2016, 05:51 AM   #239
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Trucker certainly provide a needed service.

I don't personally know any but my guess is there are good and bad among them just like any other sector.

Having said that, I do think there are way too many trucks on the road these days. Seems like we should use more rail service to reduce the number of trucks on the road. Let the trains handle the long haul piece and the trucks take care of the regional piece, rail to warehouse.

Reducing heavy truck traffic would reduce traffic, road maintenance, fuel consumption, etc... Not to mention eliminating semis 3 abreast trying to pass each other all at a speed under the posted speed limit.
The reason there are so many trucks on the road is that there is a need for them. They do not run up and down the road for no reason. It is the most efficient way to move and deliver product where and when the customer wants it. Trains are best for moving bulk product long distances, but they can not provide the convenience and timeliness that the trucker can. It takes a truck to get any product to end user. The interstate highways were built for civil defense, evacuation and commerce. I have to laugh when someone complains about trucks using the roads that were built for them.
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I haul frozen from MN to Fl, and other places. I load at the processing plant, turkeys, probably alive the day before. Three days later, I am unloaded in FL, ready to go to a home.



IF that load was put on a railroad, it would have to be hauled to a warehouse, to get enough for a car. By truck. Then hauled and loaded to RR. Rail is SLOW, probably a week to FL, on average. Then unload, and haul to warehouse.



Probably several weeks from walking around. Several truck loads and unloads, etc.



RR's are running near capacity. RR has a LOT of problems with loads like this. They are best for BULK products. Grain, coal, oil, etc.

Nice analysis. Thanks 👍
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Trucker certainly provide a needed service.

I don't personally know any but my guess is there are good and bad among them just like any other sector.

Having said that, I do think there are way too many trucks on the road these days. Seems like we should use more rail service to reduce the number of trucks on the road. Let the trains handle the long haul piece and the trucks take care of the regional piece, rail to warehouse.

Reducing heavy truck traffic would reduce traffic, road maintenance, fuel consumption, etc... Not to mention eliminating semis 3 abreast trying to pass each other all at a speed under the posted speed limit.
At issue is any JIT (just in time) delivery. Trains are totally impractical. Can you imagine your lettuce, broccoli or fresh fruit being delivered by train?

The proper response IMO to the traffic congestion is to upgrade the road network. Costly but the most practical in today's current economic climate. Railroads are running at near capacity and the cost to upgrade them would be astronomical.

More people, more commerce, more discretionary spending means more goods have to be delivered. Trains are practical for some products but not many of the consumer goods we utilize each day.

While some trucking companies specialize in bulk loads there are many more who make their living hauling less than full loads. Without them we would not have the life style we would like to become accustomed to.
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The reason there are so many trucks on the road is that there is a need for them. They do not run up and down the road for no reason. It is the most efficient way to move and deliver product where and when the customer wants it. Trains are best for moving bulk product long distances, but they can not provide the convenience and timeliness that the trucker can. It takes a truck to get any product to end user. The interstate highways were built for civil defense, evacuation and commerce. I have to laugh when someone complains about trucks using the roads that were built for them.

I think you nailed it!
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RR's are running near capacity.

RR's are NOT running at capacity - in fact they are laying off in big numbers because of the coal being shut down. The RR is a huge infrastructure that is well underused because of the price of oil being low.
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The interstate highways were built for civil defense, evacuation and commerce. I have to laugh when someone complains about trucks using the roads that were built for them.
Not exactly - Commerce just jumped on for the ride, just like they did the Internet, also installed for defense by the feds.

On June 29, 1956, President Dwight Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. The bill created a 41,000-mile “National System of Interstate and Defense Highways” that would, according to Eisenhower, eliminate unsafe roads, inefficient routes, traffic jams and all of the other things that got in the way of “speedy, safe transcontinental travel.” At the same time, highway advocates argued, “in case of atomic attack on our key cities, the road net [would] permit quick evacuation of target areas.” For all of these reasons, the 1956 law declared that the construction of an elaborate expressway system was “essential to the national interest.”
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15 pages of reading and I think I have it all figured out...

Truck stops are generally more expensive and dirty. However, they are easier to maneuver in.
Some people love that. Some people hate it.

Traditional gas stations are generally cheaper and cleaner. However, they sometimes can be a challenge to maneuver in.
Some people love that. Some people hate that.

Some people like truckers. Some people hate them.

And finally, some people are just mad about everything.

Got it!!
I should have added - And some people just like to argue.
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I should have added - And some people just like to argue.
And some are happy with being the Peanut Gallery
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And some are happy with being the Peanut Gallery

And some are wise enough to only worry about stuff they can actually fix.
Trucks and truckers don't give me any troubles that I wouldn't expect from anyone else on the road. So, I have no druthers if they are on the road with me or not.
If this might say nuff, perhaps this thread could get back on topic?
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Big Truck Stops

I'm amused at a few posts declaring truckers as the "White knights " of the Hwy and that we are their guest at truck stops. Well , no , we are not their guest. The fuel stations are a business open to the public, unless i see a sign that states commercial vehicles only.
I appreciate the job truckers do but I am along way away from putting them on a pedestal. As far as the big wheel turning how about what people in the medical profession do and those in our Armed Forces ........true heroes
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Isn't this getting off topic? I believe it was about getting fuel at truck stops.
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I've had no issues at truck stops. Fuel up, move ahead so the next guy can get to the pump.
They are loud thou. Seems most truckers leave their engine running while they fuel up.
Oh no !!! Don't get everyone started about if you should or should not leave your engine running while fueling.
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Oh no !!! Don't get everyone started about if you should or should not leave your engine running while fueling.
Gosh, are we really supposed to leave the engine running while fueling up?????

But, what if the concrete is dirty?
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