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Old 05-22-2016, 04:07 PM   #267
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i thought i made the test fair... took 5 motor homes and went up the same hill

towed the same trailer..had both pedals pinned ... hit the hill at about 70mph and seen what it would do,,.

no excuses or anything... I wanted to find out which would pull my trailer up the hill the fastest... the mith that dps will pull the trailer faster is ,.. well.. just a mith...

I run 62 mph...I wish they made an affordable smaller DP... but they seems they like to load the diesels up to the limit...

i really liked the excursion...little slower but who cares...maybe 10-15 seconds to the top of the hill...we made the mistake of getting a black one....and the 2airs wouldn't cool it down in havasu,... and it wasn't even hot yet..

I got our freightliner to ride pretty good... ran low on cash and had to sell it..

I'd take another one... and if given the choice I'd take the diesel....just cause it's worth more if nothing else..

but in my test... they don't go up the hill faster...
Just curious which hill you used...I know the area very well. Was it that slight grade to RR Pass?
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Just curious which hill you used...I know the area very well. Was it that slight grade to RR Pass?
no, it's the 215 in the north west going south from lone mt .. it's the hill just past the Cheyenne off ramp

the hill Is 6%

I went 40mph on the 8 % coming out of hurricane Utah yesterday..
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Just curious which hill you used...I know the area very well. Was it that slight grade to RR Pass?
I can pull the hill from the auto mall to horizon at 70mph
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Anything under 20K lbs will do OK with a gas engine. I'm retired with 45+ years in Logistics. Look at your over the road carriers and parcel service carriers. They're in business to make money and diesels are cost effective and will do a better job carrying weight around town or over mountains if maintained better than gas engine units. Next time you see a carrier or UPS truck try to find one carrying weight that uses a gas engine.
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Loving our Tiffin Breeze 32BR so far - just over 33 feet. I believe its 28 sister at just under 30 feet was the shortest DP
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Loving our Tiffin Breeze 32BR so far - just over 33 feet. I believe its 28 sister at just under 30 feet was the shortest DP
does it have the max force 230 hp motor?
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I didn't realize the measure of a diesel was a drag race? It's all about reliability and who gets up there with less drive train stress. Just because a gasser makes it to the top equal to a diesel doesn't mean anything. Getting there without tearing the engine up and redlining it to do so. Do it again at 110 degrees, 50 MPH (a realistic speed) and watch temp and MPH not ET

Even then it doesn't mean anything
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I love my 30 year old pusher, and tow a 3/4 ton extended cargo van behind it which is usually pretty well loaded. I would never go back to a gas rig! The bus chassis is amazing in high winds sitting on the beach or going down the highway.
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I didn't realize the measure of a diesel was a drag race? It's all about reliability and who gets up there with less drive train stress. Just because a gasser makes it to the top equal to a diesel doesn't mean anything. Getting there without tearing the engine up and redlining it to do so. Do it again at 110 degrees, 50 MPH (a realistic speed) and watch temp and MPH not ET

Even then it doesn't mean anything
110 degrees... so you want me to do it on a cooler day??

what I constantly read on the forum is the miss information that a diesel with compete with a gas motor...

it's just not true...you have to turbo charge the diesel to make it perform... that adds cost...

what I'm say'n is my v-10 went faster than both my cat and my cuminums motor homes...

only thing it means is my gas motorhome will pull my trailer 20 mph faster than a 350 hp cat
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I love my 30 year old pusher, and tow a 3/4 ton extended cargo van behind it which is usually pretty well loaded. I would never go back to a gas rig! The bus chassis is amazing in high winds sitting on the beach or going down the highway.
what if it was too big to go where you wanted to go??
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Then I don't go there, if I wanted to go places my 37' diesel can't go I'd be traveling in a tent
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I am older and just got our first pusher.
How long I will have it has a lot less to do with the decision as all the things said above .

I would rather have a great steak than a hamburger. Yea, I could live on hamburgers but we r talking quality of life now :-)

It's MUCH more coach in every respect!
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I am older and just got our first pusher.
How long I will have it has a lot less to do with the decision as all the things said above .

I would rather have a great steak than a hamburger. Yea, I could live on hamburgers but we r talking quality of life now :-)

It's MUCH more coach in every respect!
looks like you have a nice set up
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Good for you JohnBoyToo, I hope you guys enjoy every mile in your new coach!
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