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Old 05-31-2016, 09:02 PM   #155
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Hey, I own a gas coach and I am happy about it. I have a lot more cash in my bank account because of my decision. Enjoy life. I am!
the point i'm making is you are not leaving near as much on the table is whats lead to believe
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LUVR,

Great data. As in all science, it is disprovable: All someone needs to do is get a meter and show how quiet a DP is using a meter at head level under similar conditions - sort of like you've already done!

Perhaps the higher-end diesels?

Love the "hard truths" you are challenging. It's good to get the real facts out there and let the discussions percolate.

I do wish the gasser chassis were better designed in terms of vibration/road isolation. I wonder why so many of the innovations of the past, including a rear-engined gasser, went by the wayside. Interesting stuff to consider.

BTW - you "sound angry"? wonder how many decibels your typing transmits
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LUVR,

Great data. As in all science, it is disprovable: All someone needs to do is get a meter and show how quiet a DP is using a meter at head level under similar conditions - sort of like you've already done!

Perhaps the higher-end diesels?

Love the "hard truths" you are challenging. It's good to get the real facts out there and let the discussions percolate.

I do wish the gasser chassis were better designed in terms of vibration/road isolation. I wonder why so many of the innovations of the past, including a rear-engined gasser, went by the wayside. Interesting stuff to consider.

BTW - you "sound angry"? wonder how many decibels your typing transmits

X2. I would buy a rear engine gasser in a heartbeat, so long as it had a floorplan I like, say for instance the floorplan I have.

Ford and Chevy, are you listening????
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:46 PM   #159
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Are you going to share?
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LUVR,

Great data. As in all science, it is disprovable: All someone needs to do is get a meter and show how quiet a DP is using a meter at head level under similar conditions - sort of like you've already done!

Perhaps the higher-end diesels?

Love the "hard truths" you are challenging. It's good to get the real facts out there and let the discussions percolate.

I do wish the gasser chassis were better designed in terms of vibration/road isolation. I wonder why so many of the innovations of the past, including a rear-engined gasser, went by the wayside. Interesting stuff to consider.

BTW - you "sound angry"? wonder how many decibels your typing transmits
gas chassis will never be as good as it could be because the way they are built... there needs to be some type of isolation between the frame and the box...
as is now they weld the box solid to the frame...

if you take car, remove the rubber body mounts, and weld it to the frame you get the same results..harsh riding viberating.. horrible ride

as for the anger ...non here.. in fact I enjoy the phone calls and the people that thank me for my time...

the post like... my 36' 2000 ford chassis gets 15 mpg..

I say prove it...and show me your math report card....
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i'm not gonna share with you.. you made me buy a jeep....jk

need to do some "PROOF" videos first...
plus I wanna make sure the performance is up or at least level
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LUVR,

Great data. As in all science, it is disprovable: All someone needs to do is get a meter and show how quiet a DP is using a meter at head level under similar conditions - sort of like you've already done!

Perhaps the higher-end diesels?

Love the "hard truths" you are challenging. It's good to get the real facts out there and let the discussions percolate.

I do wish the gasser chassis were better designed in terms of vibration/road isolation. I wonder why so many of the innovations of the past, including a rear-engined gasser, went by the wayside. Interesting stuff to consider.

BTW - you "sound angry"? wonder how many decibels your typing transmits
the higher end coaches don't get too far of the main road...
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:20 PM   #163
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Check out the Wynn's video when they were on their way to Alaska in a gas coach. Lot's of engine roar and noise in a gas coach.
Hey, I own a gas coach and I am happy about it. I have a lot more cash in my bank account because of my decision.
Need to back and view their follow up video again but once the manufactures sound upgrade was done the sound level was much lower.
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LUVR,

Great data. As in all science, it is disprovable: All someone needs to do is get a meter and show how quiet a DP is using a meter at head level under similar conditions - sort of like you've already done!

Perhaps the higher-end diesels?

Love the "hard truths" you are challenging. It's good to get the real facts out there and let the discussions percolate.

I do wish the gasser chassis were better designed in terms of vibration/road isolation. I wonder why so many of the innovations of the past, including a rear-engined gasser, went by the wayside. Interesting stuff to consider.

BTW - you "sound angry"? wonder how many decibels your typing transmits


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X2. I would buy a rear engine gasser in a heartbeat, so long as it had a floorplan I like, say for instance the floorplan I have.

Ford and Chevy, are you listening????
X3 - I agree. Would love to have a rear engine gasser. So far we're extremely happy with our 10 yr old gas coach.

DW and I really do carry on conversations while underway without any difficulty at all. The 8.1 is quiet and Newmar apparently did a good job of insulating the noise. Really the only time it gets bothersome is when the viscous fan kicks in, which in warm weather does happen periodically. Now, my duty cycle is weekend runs of 300 miles or less, and a week long vacation run of 1000 miles or so. I really don't see that changing much over the next few years, at least until the DW retires. So far, we've done all our travelling in the flatlands - the Southeast. Again, I don't expect that will change dramatically. So, I'm comfortable with the gasser. I see no need for a diesel based on my usage. And, my wallet feels a whole lot better. Not only for the purchase, but for the maintenance as well. It does the job I need/want it to do. Diesel would be a tremendous overkill for me right now. Just cannot see the justification for the added expense and complexity. If things were to change and I find we are travelling a great deal more of the time and putting on a significant number of miles, then I would definately consider a diesel.

I'm just glad to see there are people out there happy with their gasser who haven't drank the diesel kool-aid. It really annoys me when posts show up such as the earlier one by someone who obviously had never been in a gas coach (or was in a very poorly built one maybe) who states it is impossible to carry on a conversation while underway. Really? Total BS nonsense!
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LUVR,

Great data. As in all science, it is disprovable: All someone needs to do is get a meter and show how quiet a DP is using a meter at head level under similar conditions - sort of like you've already done!

Perhaps the higher-end diesels?

Love the "hard truths" you are challenging. It's good to get the real facts out there and let the discussions percolate.

I do wish the gasser chassis were better designed in terms of vibration/road isolation. I wonder why so many of the innovations of the past, including a rear-engined gasser, went by the wayside. Interesting stuff to consider.

BTW - you "sound angry"? wonder how many decibels your typing transmits




X3 - I agree. Would love to have a rear engine gasser. So far we're extremely happy with our 10 yr old gas coach.

DW and I really do carry on conversations while underway without any difficulty at all. The 8.1 is quiet and Newmar apparently did a good job of insulating the noise. Really the only time it gets bothersome is when the viscous fan kicks in, which in warm weather does happen periodically. Now, my duty cycle is weekend runs of 300 miles or less, and a week long vacation run of 1000 miles or so. I really don't see that changing much over the next few years, at least until the DW retires. So far, we've done all our travelling in the flatlands - the Southeast. Again, I don't expect that will change dramatically. So, I'm comfortable with the gasser. I see no need for a diesel based on my usage. And, my wallet feels a whole lot better. Not only for the purchase, but for the maintenance as well. It does the job I need/want it to do. Diesel would be a tremendous overkill for me right now. Just cannot see the justification for the added expense and complexity. If things were to change and I find we are travelling a great deal more of the time and putting on a significant number of miles, then I would definately consider a diesel.

I'm just glad to see there are people out there happy with their gasser who haven't drank the diesel kool-aid. It really annoys me when posts show up such as the earlier one by someone who obviously had never been in a gas coach (or was in a very poorly built one maybe) who states it is impossible to carry on a conversation while underway. Really? Total BS nonsense!
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Well, my Jeep is quieter than yours.


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lol... i'll be with you when I get the tow bar thing figured out

with sue following me in the jeep I can't hear a word she say's
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I guess it never ends,,,, we just came back from a MH ride... now the motor is so quiet... the dash air is too loud on high
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