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Old 02-05-2012, 01:00 PM   #1
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Question Tiffin FRED?

What are your thoughts on the 2007 Tiffin FRED Motorhome? Good thing to purchase?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:11 PM   #2
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We looked at a FRED when they first started becoming available. It seemed to me that having the diesel engine, with all it's (assume accepted) benefits, sitting right between me and the DW wasn't much different than having a gas engine in the same place? They both make noise right there between the two of you as opposed to "way back there" in a pusher. When you throw in the very, very short drive shaft and small number of u*joints, compared to the FRED, which still has to get that power to the rear wheels through a much more complex set up (have you looked at one closely?), which just provides more room for things to go wrong or effect ride quality, it makes one wonder? I say spend the few extra bucks for a Pusher, even if you have to find a real good used one to stay in your budget. My too sense.

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:29 PM   #3
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We have a 2007 Tiffin Allegro Bay FRED, purchased new, and have been very pleased with it. We travel 6 to 7 months per year in it. Reliability is excellent, quality is excellent and it has the floor plan we wanted at the time. When we were looking we pretty much had decided we wanted new/newer - we had DP tastes on a gasser budget. We compared the FRED to identical motorhomes with gas chassis. We ended up choosing the FRED for several reasons. The ride was better than identical gas coaches. The FRED is quieter. The FRED is on a Freightliner chassis and has more ccc than a gas chassis. The engine brake is extremely useful. The FRED has a diesel generator. We have averaged about 10 mpg towing a CRV. Even though ours is the older 300 hp with a 5 speed transmission we have plenty of power to do what we want. On mountain/big hill climbs we will pass gas models on the way uphill and be passed on the way up by big DPs.

A FRED is not a diesel pusher and should not be compared to one.There are no air bags. While quieter than comparable gas coaches we tested, it is not nearly as quiet as a DP. There are no pass through storage areas (driveshaft gets in the way). When we purchased we were able to negotiate a discounted price for the FRED nearly identical to the discounted prices being paid for the same model with a Workhorse chassis.

Good luck with your choice.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:55 AM   #4
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Ditto everything jzick said. We have a 2008 Allegro Bay FRED that we bought low mileage used in 2010. The previous owner had put in all possible options, so we were delighted to get the Tiffin we had wanted, in the floor plan and colors we wanted, for a price we could afford. We have had no problems with it and tow either a toad or a motorcycle trailer. We have no problems with power; gas mileage is a little over 9 mpg. The interior finish details for the Bay were higher than the Allegro at the time, and below the Phaeton. We really appreciate the solid surface backsplash that fully encloses the cooking area, and we are glad to have the enclosed bathroom so that when somebody comes in and the shower is in use, you don't feel "exposed."
No regrets with our purchase. Every time we look at others, we come away so happy with what we have for the money we spent. We take a couple big trips (2,000 miles or so) each year and a few short trips and look forward to more travel next year in retirement.
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