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Old 07-09-2016, 10:03 AM   #15
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Newmar is suppose to better insulated.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:02 AM   #16
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Newmar is suppose to better insulated.
According to the Tiffin and Newmar web sites (for the equivalent gas coaches in this case):

Tiffin: 5 1/5" Formed insulation

Newmar: 5/8" Foam Insulation Laminated in Sidewalls & Ceiling
Optional : Polar Pak R19 batten Insulation in Roof

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FWIW, our sons 2016 45' Mountain Aire is better insulated than our 2013 Allegro Bus. It is quieter in the rain and on the road. It's also easier to heat and cool. That said, he has had more problems in 10 months than we have in 3 years. Back to the factory three times. Hopefully, he thinks his is ok now. I think both companies fell into the "Quality Control Slump" from having too many sales and the desire to rush through the production process. Here's where a good dealer is worth a bunch. Our dealer is 45 miles away and they can do everything that the factory can and much quicker. For that reason, I would be hard to convince to switch to Newmar for it's improved insulation. I have found the inside quality of both to be very similar. and, I couldn't ask for a better handling coach. IMHO, when choosing between Newmar and Tiffin, it all comes down to the servicing dealer.
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I can tell you by experience, Newmars insulation is way better. There slide mechanics and seals is second to none. Newmars side walls are 2". If you look at a Tiffin you will see no outlet's in the side walls. Look in a Newmar and you will see the outlets mounted in the walls.
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I can tell you by experience, Newmars insulation is way better. There slide mechanics and seals is second to none. Newmars side walls are 2". If you look at a Tiffin you will see no outlet's in the side walls. Look in a Newmar and you will see the outlets mounted in the walls.
I have outlets in walls, fixed and slides, throughout my Tiffin gasser. Not sure what you are looking at........
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I can tell you by experience, Newmars insulation is way better. There slide mechanics and seals is second to none. Newmars side walls are 2". If you look at a Tiffin you will see no outlet's in the side walls. Look in a Newmar and you will see the outlets mounted in the walls.
All that I can say is that I've copied the specs on insulation directly from the respective web sites: Tiffin = 5 1/2" of insulation. Newmarket = 5/8" standard with extra in the ceiling if you want to pay extra. Just sayin'

Objectively: Tiffin is "better insulated" by the numbers, unless theyre using wadded up newspaper instead of insulation. Both are nicely made coaches. Pick your favorite.
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I have outlets in walls, fixed and slides, throughout my Tiffin gasser. Not sure what you are looking at........
You are correct, I forgot I had one in the bathroom.
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The Newmar sidewalls have 5/8" bead foam insulation in addition to fiberglass batten insulation plus 3/16" plywood interior and exterior walls (per the website) Tiffin's 5 1/2" formed insulation is only in the roof and they use "high performance thermal insulation" in the walls (basically think reflecting barrier) we have camped in 25 DS degrees and had to purchase a electric heater for the Allegro to keep it above 50 degrees inside. Also we could hear everything going on outside the coach always. All this technicality aside living is way more comfortable for us in the Newmar but that's why there is more than one coach choice, each family has their priority on different things or in different order. Good luck and safe travels.
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If you look at a Tiffin you will see no outlet's in the side walls.
Not sure what year or model you have, but I've got a number of outlets in outside walls in my Tiffin.
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I know I've been amazed at how quiet our Newmar is. Its really hard to hear much of anything outside. Mine also has the double glazed windows which probably makes a little difference.

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I have owned a Newmar and a Tiffin you will be happy with either one you chose
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Not sure what year or model you have, but I've got a number of outlets in outside walls in my Tiffin.
In the wall or on the wall? I believe he was referring to Newmar running wiring inside the wall and flush mounting outlets like residential construction vs more of a surface mount or "box" for the outlets on Tiffin. At least that is the way it has been explained to me. We've got a Newmar. I've been in Tiffins but only vaguely remember the way the electrical was laid out.
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In the wall or on the wall? I believe he was referring to Newmar running wiring inside the wall and flush mounting outlets like residential construction vs more of a surface mount or "box" for the outlets on Tiffin. At least that is the way it has been explained to me. We've got a Newmar. I've been in Tiffins but only vaguely remember the way the electrical was laid out.
quickly, I count 8 - 120v outlets, and 1 - 12v outlet flush on the walls in my little 31SA, on both slides and fixed walls.

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