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Old 10-03-2008, 04:33 PM   #15
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My coach came with 3M coating on the front. Diamond Shield was not available until 2007. I just returned from the factory where they fixed all the pits and nicked places and repainted. They recommended installation of Diamond Shield for $1,200 with a 3 year warranty. A friend of mine, who has a 2008 coach, has had the Diamond shield replaced twice in the last year with the front of the coach having to be repainted. Others in the campground we discussed the issue with while we were waiting on completion of the work, all had negative comments about the durability and discoloration of the Diamond Shield. I opted for a custom made bra for the coach. I keep it clean and waxed underneath the bra and only have it on when traveling. The bugs are easy to get off of it.
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Jim: Are you saying that you DO have the 3M Shield, and they CAN fix dings and patch the 3M shield? If so, how?
Guess why I ask....
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:54 PM   #17
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Jeff,

They did the work at the Tiffin Service Center in Red Bay, Alabama. I was told that the 3M Shield is a coating over the paint whereas Diamond Shield is film that is applied over the paint. When they finished it looked brand new and I can not tell any difference other than the nicks and chips are gone.

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Old 10-04-2008, 08:11 AM   #18
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">was told that the 3M Shield is a coating over the paint whereas Diamond Shield is film that is applied over the paint </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Either they were not talking about 3M film, or they were blowing strange smoke...

The complete name for 3M is "3M Scotchguard Paint Protection Film." It definitely is a film that is applied over the paint, and the film has a thin layer of automotive type clear-coat on it so it can be waxed just as clear coat paint can be. From what I have seen of 3M and Diamond Shield, they look pretty much the same when new. From what I am hearing on this and other forums, 3M seems to stand up better over time without yellowing, etc.
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:55 PM   #19
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">they were blowing strange smoke... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do I feel a cool breeze?

All I know about paint is that it comes in cans and it makes a mess if you drop one without the lid on it. All I can tell you is it looks again like it did when I bought it.
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We have the 3M film. After 15,000 miles it is generally still in good shape. There are several rock chips that went all the way through and some stains from bug guts. Otherwise, it is doing its' job.

We live in the desert Southwest so the sun is out with maximum intensity &gt; 320 days a year. That makes for a lot of UV exposure. I have covers to help lower the UV exposure. Nothing short of a hermetic seal would keep ozone out so why bother with that? UV is a worse issue out here than ozone so I will pick my battles.

I prefer the 3M clear fim look to the brown or black bra or to the plexiglass armor on some coaches.
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Where would I be able to purchase a bra for my 2004 Phaeton? Thanks.
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