RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-13-2018, 09:32 PM   #1
Member
 
katielee's Avatar


 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: SE Georgia
Posts: 91
Tire height when leveling

When leveling our class A, is it bad to raise the wheels off the ground. In a park recently, we saw a class A with all wheels raised off the ground. It was kind of un-level in the park and that may be why.

I assume the auto level system would not raise it that high if it were not needed.

Also, I have seen where people put blocks under the leveling jacks to keep the jacks from having to travel to far. Is this a good idea?

Thanks

chuck and katie
__________________

katielee is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-13-2018, 10:42 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ & Plover, WI
Posts: 2,681
It's a bad idea to get two wheels off the ground and an absolute terrible idea to get all the wheels off. With the rear wheels off the ground, the only thing keeping the coach from rolling are the jacks which are not designed for that type of load. If you can not keep the wheels in contact with the terrain, find a better place to park.
__________________

__________________
2013 43 QGP Allegro Bus
2013 Avalanche
Stretched LJ Rock Crawler
Crasher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 10:52 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Lt Dan's Avatar


 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 2,602
I've parked in a couple of spots where the front wheels were either barely touching or slightly off the ground but I would never get the rear wheels off the ground. That would totally eliminate your parking brake hold and as Crasher said, put too extreme of a load on the jacks.
__________________
Dan & Ro with two Rescued Boston "Terrorists" Jade & Jewel
2017 Phaeton 40IH Maroon Coral - Power Glide Chassis with IFS (05/17)
Previously '15 Tiffin Allegro RED 38QRA and '06 Itasca Sunrise 35A
'12 Jeep JK Wrangler Sport and/or '08 Honda Goldwing
Lt Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 12:18 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
ThePowells's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Zebulon, NC
Posts: 3,845
Welcome to the forum!

If you raise the wheels off of the ground, nobody is gonna die and your world will not end.

The "proper" use of cribbing to support your leveling jacks will actually lessen the stress on your jack cylinders by lessening the cylinder travel.
__________________
Kelly and Jerry Powell with Halo (Lethal White Aussie), Nash the Rat Terrorist, and now Reid, the "Brindle we have no idea puppy"
2017 Thor Quantum W31, Ford E-450, Onan QG4000, Demco Kar Kaddy, Toytoada Prius.
ThePowells is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 03:10 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
SuperGewl's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 2,053
They say to NEVER raise the rear wheels off the ground. If it is that unlevel then you need to drive the wheels up on blocks and then place equal height blocks under the jacks prior to LEVELING the MH.
The exception to this when doing maintenance and placing the chassis on blocks or stands
__________________
Retired Navy Submariner
2014 Itasca Sunstar 35F; 5 Star tuned; 2014 Jeep Cherokee TrailHawk
SuperGewl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 05:13 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Nine Mile Falls WA / Arizona City AZ
Posts: 778
I do carry a larger footprint pad to place under my leveling/jacking system.


I often worry that the ground under the legs won't support the weight of the smaller footprint leg so I have some pads that have about 2 1/2 times the surface area..



I use 2 pieces of 3/4" marine plywood that I've cut, glued and stapled together with a simple handle to allow me to place them under the legs when necessary...
__________________
Retired Business Owner, Re-manufacturing HD Clutches, Brake Shoes, Air Compressors, Sales & Installation of PacBrake and other Industrial Friction
jelag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 06:30 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Redapple's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 666
All RV's are different. You should follow the manual for your rig. Mine says to never let the wheels off the ground, so I do agree with other folks here to "Pre-Level" the RV using blocks under the wheels and jacks.
__________________
2006 Damon Daybreak 3272 w/F-53 @ V10
Redapple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 07:21 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
knightstorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 755
The F53 (gas) chassis has the parking brake on the drive shaft before the differential. If ONE rear wheel is off the ground you have no parking brakes.
knightstorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 07:38 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 14,519
Your jack feet have about the same footprint as your tires, maybe more on the front.

If the tires don't slide, then the feet won't either. They are bearing into the ground.
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 08:00 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Bigd9's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: The Bluegrass State
Posts: 4,739
Like has been said, I use two layers of exterior grade plywood cut to provide support for the wheels and/or stabilizer jack legs when needed.
__________________
Good Luck, Be Safe and Above All, Don't Forget To Have Fun
Pete
2006 Fleetwood Discovery 35H, 2014 Honda CR-V, M&G Engineering Braking System
Bigd9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 08:01 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
FatChance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,643
If ALL the wheels are off the ground to level the coach, then it is too high and it should be lowered. No matter how unlevel the site, the coach can ALWAYS be leveled with at least one wheel in contact with Terra Firma. The people you saw were either too lazy to properly level their coach or ignorant of how to level it.

Think about it. Assume the coach is level with all the wheels off the ground. If you keep it level and slowly lower it, sooner or later, at least one of the wheels will eventually touch ground and it will still be level. There is never a situation where all the wheels have to be off the ground to level the coach.
__________________
'04 Newmar Mountain Aire 4016
400ISL/Freightliner
FatChance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 10:20 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 326
Our first time leveling with the Auto level all the wheels raised off the ground by the time if was done. The leveling system wasn't set up right at the factory. I got the instructions and on a level concrete pad re-programmed the system. Now it never raises the entire coach off but might a front wheel on a very poor lot.

I found it was better and faster to just use the Manual jack settings and watch the bubble and lights to achieve level with minimal jack extension.

I do use blocks under the jacks on gravel or dirt to get more contact area and minimize sinking.
__________________
2016 Tuscany 42GX
F150 KR or Escape Toad
lwmcguire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 12:14 PM   #13
Ex Millwright / Army Vet
 
marjoa's Avatar


 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Livingston, TX - This is our legal domicile/home base as we are FTers and travel around the country.
Posts: 2,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by lwmcguire View Post
I found it was better and faster to just use the Manual jack settings and watch the bubble and lights to achieve level with minimal jack extension.

I do use blocks under the jacks on gravel or dirt to get more contact area and minimize sinking.
Exactly. This is why I level our coach like this:

__________________
TEAM Martin & Joanie (Full Timers)
2012 WGO Vista 35F, 5 ST, Toyo M122's/duallys, Centramatics (all around), TPMS, ScanGuage II, Safe T Plus, SS Rear Trac Bar, CHF (F/R), Koni FSD's, 2017 FORD Fiesta Toad, Escapees
Making Traveling, FTing and Our Motorhome "GREAT AGAIN".
marjoa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2018, 01:23 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
nathaniel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 123
Yep same here.
__________________

__________________
2009 Gulfstream Caribean
40 ft trio
350 Cummins
nathaniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
leveling



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slide outs in/out at air ride height before leveling tom chelbana Newmar Owner's Forum 30 10-28-2015 10:49 PM
Palazzo height riding level, is your height correct? Palazzoteam Palazzo Motorhomes 1 09-25-2013 06:06 AM
Maximum height to lift front end for leveling JimmyD1 Roadmaster Motorhome Chassis Forum 8 10-17-2012 10:08 PM
Air Bag Height Control/Leveling Valves OldForester Alpine Coach Owner's Forum 0 02-07-2011 10:15 AM
Ride height leveling mike norton Monaco Owner's Forum 4 08-05-2010 08:24 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.