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Old 07-24-2011, 06:40 PM   #1
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Angry Tires, Michelin, 12,000 miles

I have a 2006 33F Class A winnabago Adventurer with the above tires that are cracking at the rims and I have made use that we used the tire pressure that was recommended. Also I had to replace the tires on my Lexus with 40,000 miles due to the same and got a rebate back. Has anyone been having these problems with these tires.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:49 PM   #2
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I Think it is just the more moderen tires.
Back about 1997 I bought a old 2 1/2 ton military truck from a fire dept. I remember one of the tires had a code on the side 9-66 as in Sept-1966!!! yes the outer rears were cracked,.... some With the inners looking fine. I belive what ever ingredaint put in side wall rubber (or a different type of runbber)years ago to prevent cracking has been cheapend up to increase profits.
Over the years cracks are getting more visalbe sooner over the age of a tires.
I don't think it is brand specific either.
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RV tires generally have a useful life or 5 to maybe 7 years. They are prone to ozone and UV deterioration due to not being driven enough. So cracked tire sidewalls on a 5 year old RV is not out of the question, especially since the tires may have been manufactured a year or two earlier. You can check the date codes on the back of the tires to be sure of their age.

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I just traded a 2007 Travel Supreme that had cracked front tires. They had 40K miles and looked like new on the tread face but radial tires seem to crack bad on the sidewalls. If the cracks are 1/32 deep, no problem, they recommend that they be replaced when they get over 2/32 deep. Mine were approaching the 2/32 depth and the dealer that traded for it said he had figured in new tires in the trade price(which I already knew he would have to as I would have replaced them very soon). My tire dealer told me that they were still safe but would need replacement soon to prevent the risk of a blow out. Believe me, you do not want a tire to blowout on a class A, it can do more damage than a whole fleet of tires would cost. All just my opinion and experience.
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With 12,000 miles in five/six year then the rig sat for long periods----tires do better with exercise, stay more flexible etc; So the cracking is not unusual from all I have read----

I am replacing my tires @ 44,000 miles and they are Michelins with a 1001 DOT---never had a problem or a crack. I just noticed the first little smiley crack on the passenger side outside dual where I scrubbed against a curb, immaterial now since I am replacing.

Needless to say I have had good service out of these Michelins----and Costco just quoted $2,525. for six out the door spin balanced with nitrogen and warranties----so I'm going back with Michelins.

If you hang around a tire thread long enough you will hear good and bad opinions about every tire brand eventually. All manufacturers have law suits for various reasons and all have millions of tires running successfully on the road every day without problems---if Michelin honored their warranty on the Lexas tire then that is what one would expect----the cracks on the RV tires are not out of the ordinary.

I have no axe to grind or no particular favor about any tire brand-----I'm just going with what has been successful and what came with the rig in the first place. I shopped many brands---every thing considered this I am getting is a good deal I believe.
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RV tires generally have a useful life or 5 to maybe 7 years. They are prone to ozone and UV deterioration due to not being driven enough. So cracked tire sidewalls on a 5 year old RV is not out of the question, especially since the tires may have been manufactured a year or two earlier. You can check the date codes on the back of the tires to be sure of their age.

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Michelin Technical Bulletin
May 15, 2006

Service Life for RV/Motorhome Tires

The following recommendation applies to RV/Motorhome tires. Tires are composed of various types of material and rubber compounds, having performance properties essential to the proper functioning of the tire itself. These component properties evolve over time.
For each tire, this evolution depends upon many factors such as weather, storage conditions, and conditions of use (load, speed, inflation pressure, maintenance, etc.) to which the tire is subjected throughout its life. This service-related evolution varies widely so that accurately predicting the serviceable life of any specific tire in advance is not possible.

That is why, in addition to regular inspections and inflation pressure maintenance by consumers, it is recommended to have RV/Motorhome tires, including spare tires, inspected regularly by a qualified tire specialist, such as a tire dealer, who will assess the tire’s suitability for continued service. Tires that have been in use for 5 years or more should
continue to be inspected by a specialist at least annually.

Consumers are strongly encouraged to be aware not only of their tires’ visual condition and inflation pressure, but also of any change in dynamic performance such as increased air loss, noise or vibration, which could be an indication that the tires need to be removed from service to prevent tire failure.

It is impossible to predict when tires should be replaced based on their calendar age alone. However, the older a tire the greater the chance that it will need to be replaced due to the service-related evolution or other conditions found upon inspection or detected during use.

While most tires will need replacement before they achieve 10 years, it is recommended that any tires in service 10 years or more from the date of manufacture, including spare tires, be replaced with new tires as a simple precaution even if such tires appear serviceable and even if they have not reached the legal wear limit.

For tires that were on an original equipment vehicle (i.e., acquired by the consumer on a new vehicle), follow the vehicle manufacturer’s tire replacement recommendations, when specified (but not to exceed 10 years).

The date when a tire was manufactured is located on the sidewall of each tire. Consumers should locate the Department of Transportation or DOT code on the tire that begins with DOT and ends with the week and year of manufacture. For example, a DOT code ending with “0304” indicates a tire made in the 3rd week (Jan) of 2004. (See back.)

For some reason that old wives tale of five to seven years keeps hanging around even though the tire companies themselves say it's not right.
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You guys with the Travel Supremes. Do you have 295-80's or 315-80's on your Spartan K2 Chassis?. I have the Essex with the 315's and no cracking. Can't figure why the tire size difference. Same chassis different manufactures. I noticed a lot of the Micheln's on the Travel Supreme's with the 295 are cracking but the 315's on the Essex's are not. What's your opinion?
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And Mr. Michelin is not the one that has to drive down the road and repair the tires. I have had and seen too many tires...all brands that have blow out or separations starting a 5years and for sure by 7 years.

The damage done by a blow out provided you do not have a wreck can run thousands of dollars.

I will continue to replace the RV tires at 5 to 7 years until the tire manufactures back the tires with a no nonsense written warranty for the additional time. And for reference, some of the 6 year old tires that I had fail were Michelins.

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Michelin Technical Bulletin
May 15, 2006

Service Life for RV/Motorhome Tires

The following recommendation applies to RV/Motorhome tires. Tires are composed of various types of material and rubber compounds, having performance properties essential to the proper functioning of the tire itself. These component properties evolve over time.
For each tire, this evolution depends upon many factors such as weather, storage conditions, and conditions of use (load, speed, inflation pressure, maintenance, etc.) to which the tire is subjected throughout its life. This service-related evolution varies widely so that accurately predicting the serviceable life of any specific tire in advance is not possible.

That is why, in addition to regular inspections and inflation pressure maintenance by consumers, it is recommended to have RV/Motorhome tires, including spare tires, inspected regularly by a qualified tire specialist, such as a tire dealer, who will assess the tire’s suitability for continued service. Tires that have been in use for 5 years or more should
continue to be inspected by a specialist at least annually.

Consumers are strongly encouraged to be aware not only of their tires’ visual condition and inflation pressure, but also of any change in dynamic performance such as increased air loss, noise or vibration, which could be an indication that the tires need to be removed from service to prevent tire failure.

It is impossible to predict when tires should be replaced based on their calendar age alone. However, the older a tire the greater the chance that it will need to be replaced due to the service-related evolution or other conditions found upon inspection or detected during use.

While most tires will need replacement before they achieve 10 years, it is recommended that any tires in service 10 years or more from the date of manufacture, including spare tires, be replaced with new tires as a simple precaution even if such tires appear serviceable and even if they have not reached the legal wear limit.

For tires that were on an original equipment vehicle (i.e., acquired by the consumer on a new vehicle), follow the vehicle manufacturer’s tire replacement recommendations, when specified (but not to exceed 10 years).

The date when a tire was manufactured is located on the sidewall of each tire. Consumers should locate the Department of Transportation or DOT code on the tire that begins with DOT and ends with the week and year of manufacture. For example, a DOT code ending with “0304” indicates a tire made in the 3rd week (Jan) of 2004. (See back.)

For some reason that old wives tale of five to seven years keeps hanging around even though the tire companies themselves say it's not right.
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For some reason that old wives tale of five to seven years keeps hanging around even though the tire companies themselves say it's not right.
It's not an old wives tale - it's a risk assessment. The Michelin TSB supports that quite clearly. Starting at about 5 years there is a risk that the tire will have deteriorated internally such that it could fail. That's why Michelin recommends that the tire be inspected annually starting at 5 years. That inspection isn't free - it involves dismounting the tire to check the inside for damage or cracking. The risk of there being a problem increases each year - note that Michelin says "most tires will need replacement before they achieve 10 years". Somewhere around age 7 the risk of a tire failure gets high enough that many of us do not want to take the chance of the inconvenience and possible monetary loss (due to body damage) of a tire failure, so elect to replace them. You can keep going on your 8-10 year old tires if you feel lucky because some of them will indeed last that long. And some will not. It's your call.
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Rest assure I have heard this before from Michelin,however I had 40K on my Lexus and they were replaced by Michelin and with a refund due to wear. The Lexus was a XG470 2005. Believe me I will be going back to Michelin on this matter for I am sure that they do not want to get into the same type of law suite that Fire Stone had and had to replace all the tires on Fords Vehicles for the same reason.

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Ford puts Michelins on the 2010 Explorers but puts a full size Goodyear as a spare. What's up with that?
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Ford puts Michelins on the 2010 Explorers but puts a full size Goodyear as a spare. What's up with that?
How many of this combination have you seen? If it's only one maybe someone swapped it that wanted a Michelin?
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You can keep going on your 8-10 year old tires if you feel lucky because some of them will indeed last that long. And some will not. It's your call.
I replaced our Michelins (4701) last year after about 9 years on the rig and they still looked pretty good. When Newmar replaced the front axle they left the original tires on the rig and replaced the wheels with heavy duty ones. They gave me a letter on Michelin letterhead rerating the tires to allow a higher rating with less pressure than required by their charts. The tires required 125 psi but the wheels would only take 120. I ran them that way for over 6 years with no problems.
In some 50 years of driving I've had one blowout, that was a GoodYear on a Jeep. In fact since I've been running Michelins I've had two flats and they were due to screws at a venue were were setting up at and then it was the Ody. I've never had a flat on an RV. Why? Because I check my tires and follow the manufacturers instructions.
So, waste you money changing tires too soon if you want. I prefer to use my money elsewhere.
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