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10-18-2017, 12:00 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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I have to say you did a fantastic job updating to the new century.
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SHUSH - Don't tell the owner of the RV park that its older than 10 years old...
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10-18-2017, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member
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To each his own. We wouldn't have it any other way!
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2020 Newmar Dutch Star 4310 on Spartan Chassis
2017 Lincoln MKX
Owned: '15, '16, '17, '18, '19 Dutch Star
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10-18-2017, 04:24 PM
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Community Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Between the Oceans
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Originally Posted by CentILRVer
To each his own. We wouldn't have it any other way!
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did you repaint it or it's stock?
like a tour bus, nice.
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Steven & Polly
2000 Country Coach Intrigue 40' ISC 350
2018 Ford Explorer 4WD
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10-18-2017, 04:34 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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My rig has lots of swirls and some black. Luckily the roof is totally white but you can't see it due to the awning cases.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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10-18-2017, 04:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Prescott, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Gadget Man
The DW & I went to the California RV Show this week. My motorhome is in need of a new paint job, so we entertained the idea of investing the money into a new DP instead of a paint job. That idea quickly evaporated.
My current coach has some fiberglass thermal checking on the side of the coach that see’s the most sun. I have been told that dark colors are more susceptible to thermal checking. This seems to be true, as my checking seems to be limited to areas that are my RV’s darkest color, a chocolate brown.
What I found odd, is that almost every single DP we saw had a paint scheme that included a large amount of black paint. I would never own a black painted RV. Not only because of the potential thermal checking issue, but anyone that’s ever owned a black vehicle can tell you how they attract heat. Living in Southern California, that is the last thing I want to do.
In the end we have decided to keep what we have. I just don’t understand the broad use of black paint by almost every DP manufacturer.
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Good observation!!
A new paint job can cost nearly 50K, unless you go to Mexico.
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10-18-2017, 04:47 PM
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Registered User
Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Jamestown, NM
Posts: 1,262
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I also went to the California RV Show and noticed many black or dark colored rigs.
Some pix:
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10-18-2017, 06:25 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Vacaville, CA
Posts: 440
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Our new to use 1996 has the original stripes repainted with current color scheme. Was done by the dealership. The coach was clear coated also.
No idea what it cost.
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2013 Tiffin Allegro 32CA 24K & Chihuahuas
1996 Itasca Suncruiser 29RQ, 7.4, P32
If we're not at a dog show... we're lost!
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10-19-2017, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: East Texas
Posts: 2,269
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Originally Posted by ArmandV
I also went to the California RV Show and noticed many black or dark colored rigs.
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Yep, we were there as well. We were looking at the new Tiffins. The front and top halves of them had a ton of black. The Phaeton we were initially interested in, also had black window and patio awnings. It got pretty warm standing under that black patio awning.
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10-24-2017, 07:30 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cincinnati
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I think many of the paint schemes are copied from WW I navy camouflage paint schemes.
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'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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10-24-2017, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Titusville, FL
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I was in Phoenix last week in full sun. I checked the RV surface temp with an IR gun. White parts were around 120 and my dark green stripe was 185. Glad that stripe is only about 4" wide.
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10-25-2017, 12:43 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5,292
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Originally Posted by CentILRVer
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I wondered who bought that DS, and if it was someone here. I watched it on RV Trader......nice coach. The original owner didn't keep it very long.....or are you the original owner and decided not to sell after all?
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2014 Itasca Ellipse 42QD, Freightliner Maxum, 450HP Cummins ISL, 3000 Allison, Roadmaster Nighthawk II, 2011 Lincoln MKX.
2012 Newmar Canyon Star (first coach) FMCA F428511.
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10-25-2017, 06:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Being in marketing for the last 28yrs. I know why manufacturers use dark colors and it's called "Contrast".
These—design/marketing—principals applies to everything we buy. Interior design, clothes, make up, jewelry, department store displays, hair coloring, all sorts of packaging that you see everyday in stores, cars......everything.
Consumers buy with their eyes. To increase sales, you create a rich, luster look, and that's done with using contrasting colors.
Use a dark base / back ground color and then highlight it with lighter ones.
So for our example here in this discussion.
Let's take 2 coaches that are exactly same. One with primarily dark colors and one with primarily light colors. Now, let's add the highlights.
Chrome wheels, mirrors, storage bay latches, lighted entry handles, accent exterior lighting, awning hardware, chrome headlights and taillights, etc. You get the picture. BTW...the same is done on the inside. Dark cabinets, light furniture and so on. It's using low lights and highlights to create luster and richness.
Now step back and look at these exact two coaches. Which one looks more pleasing? Richer? Has more luster? Has the more WOW factor? The darker one with highlights or the light one with highlights? It's almost always the one that has the more contrast. It just has more pop to it. This is not my opinion, it's a proven marketing design technique. In many industries, they run focus groups to show them several contrasting designs to narrow down which ones are more popular and pleasing to the eyes.
Consumers really like this look. Especially American consumers. If you're really honest with yourself, you like it too. It just looks really cool. All of us here on this discussion are discussing these dark colors from a practical usage point of view. Even some experienced RV users will overlook the draw backs of these dark colors because, well, they just like the look. For the rest and the majority of American consumers, the reality is, they do NOT look at products from a practical POV. Using contrasting colors to create richness, luster and a high end look, gives them a good feeling that they are getting a lot for their money, it looks very high end and at the end of the day, it increases sales.
Whether it causes checking, attracts heat, shows all the dirt, hard to keep clean, difficult to see at night time on the road, reveals the smallest imperfections like swirls & scratches etc, is not the manufacturers concern.
Their concern is, what can do we do to make our product more attractive to increase sales. PERIOD!
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10-25-2017, 11:29 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Freightliner Owners Club
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Marjoa, you're right on the money. As you said, your explanation applies to just about everything sold. Take produce, it's no accident that specific types of lighting is placed above the oranges and apples.
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2014 Itasca Ellipse 42QD, Freightliner Maxum, 450HP Cummins ISL, 3000 Allison, Roadmaster Nighthawk II, 2011 Lincoln MKX.
2012 Newmar Canyon Star (first coach) FMCA F428511.
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11-09-2017, 02:51 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: East Texas
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Originally Posted by marjoa
Whether it causes checking, attracts heat, shows all the dirt, hard to keep clean, difficult to see at night time on the road, reveals the smallest imperfections like swirls & scratches etc, is not the manufacturers concern.
Their concern is, what can do we do to make our product more attractive to increase sales. PERIOD!
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Exactly! By the time checking occurs and clear coat fails, the manufacturer warranty had almost always expired. Only those left with those issues know not to go down that road again. But then again, a lot of people at the RV show didn’t seem to care.
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