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Old 05-05-2013, 01:14 PM   #1
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total reno of your class A?

Hi, we have a 99 Newmar Mountain Aire 4080DP and are about to embark on 'converting' to our tastes (read: complete gut and makeover). I have been searching the MH forums for people that have done this and come up empty so figured I would try my luck here. I am looking to get feedback on shops to do the work in either British Columbia (live in Vancouver) or Washington State and some idea of the approximate costs. We want to do a top to bottom reno-new vinyl ceiling (currently carpet), similar to ceiling sidewalls, new floors, lighting, Ikea kitchen, residential shower (probably involve moving an interior dividing wall), vanity and similar work to the bedroom. We are not looking to do all remote controlled blinds and lighting etc, nor heated floors (just good quality tile). This is going to be the unit we spend 6 months of the year in and are not doing this in an attempt for resale. We live in a modern contemporary condo and are looking to re-create the same look in our coach. Our thought is that by not going custom for anything (other than the shower) and using as many residential type cabinets (like the IKEA for the kitchen) we may be able to do this for about $20k. Is that unrealistic?

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Old 05-05-2013, 01:54 PM   #2
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I know many other people have refurbished their coaches, but it's not a walk in the park. Open your cabinets and take out your drawers, look at all the stuff run behind and in them! You very well could open a can of worms on a project like this, especially on a 13-14 year old coach.

I think the best way to approach it is how much is it going to cost? Are you going to be doing the work? Paying someone? Would that money be better spent looking at a used Newell or Prevost? Both of which offer modern interiors. Just my $0.02

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Old 05-05-2013, 06:58 PM   #3
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SteveB2, have you done any reno's to your unit that you can talk to your expereinces?
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You have to be careful with residential furniture and cabinets. They typically are heavier than the ones built into the motorhome. Are you planning on replacing the appliances as well? How the electrial part. What kind of inverter does it have and what are its capabilities? I can't point you to anyone in the end of the world.
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i did it ...but.. i had a fire so it made me do it but truth be told its not all that hard and if you like to work with wood you could do it your self like i did

i had a 2006 and pulled the front cap put a newer cap on it and gutted and started over with a 40f DP
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:00 AM   #6
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I think your estimate is low. We just had a quote for front and rear TV's plus an HD dish....well north of $7k.
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I think your estimate is "iffy". If you are including new appliances it probably is not sufficient. I assume, for $20K you are doing all the work yourself. Start by measuring all your cabinets and price the replacements. Make sure everything new will fit thru the door or you will have the additional cost/time to remove a window or windshield. Same thing with any replacement appliances and furniture. If you need to take out a window do you have a RV garage?

I suggest you have a look at any threads or videos that show how an RV is constructed at the manufacturer's facility. It will give you insight into what is done before the walls/roof are installed.
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i dont think he's asking about cost just the proccess and he wants to do it...it's completly doable and although i dont know of any shops there ...you could talk to a cabinet maker as they build to suit and i have had them do many things like that in our home remodeling ...then talk to a good carpenter{cabinet shop always knows good carpenters} and have them move the walls ect...then go to a fabric shop or talk to a good interior designer and have them give you ideas on what you want..they will know of good installers...if you need electrical items done call a good electrician...ect....Now i know this is not one stop shoping but it will give the best results..and just coridinate people accordinly..one of those listed may even help get everything done so you dont have to put so much time into it....good luck...jeff
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:49 PM   #10
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yes, looked at their site but haven't seen too many reviews (and the ones I did see were 50/50)
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I believe your estimate is low! We have a 2000 Mountain Aire that had minor interior rehabs done before we bought it. New flooring (tile), new carpet in the b'room, new recliner, 2 new flat screen TV's, and new upholstery on the walls. NO new ceiling coverings or any wall moves, bath or appliance upgrades. All this work was done by Newmar for approx $15,000. This is a lot less work than you're considering. BTW, this work was all done in the last 18-24 months.

I would agree with some other comments. IF you're a good wood worker, and patient, you could save $$$ by doing it yourself, but your post suggests you want to hire others to do the work.

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Sorry but assuming that you are doing all the labor yourself it's very doable.

I have done 3 to various stages (never a total gut/remodel but a goodly part).

I'd start by mocking up the plans on a computer first and also learn from the construction process used by the manufacturer when you do the demo - they use 1*1 where a regular house would use 2*4 - everything is made as light as possible.

Also eBay and Amazon can be your friend when looking for fittings and appliances - I saved hundreds if not thousands by shopping around online for deals and bargains - for example I bought 4 sets of window awnings for $400 - regular price $1200 - they were a blue stripe so I designed the rest of the decals and color scheme around them. Now it all works.
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koresample, I live in maple ridge. Not sure if you live downtown Vancouver or not, but there used to be an rv shop on river road down by the old Albion ferry in maple ridge. Not sure if its still there or not, but they did complete renos or even bus conversions etc. Another good place to contact would be Meridian RV in Port Coquitlam. I've been in there many times and seen major work being done to RVs in their shop ( as in fairly old units being reno'd and fixed up). I bought our last RV there and they were very good to deal with, both sales and service side of things.

One other option you might want to think about is trading your unit in on a newer model. Travelland RV in Langley has some nice newmars for sale for a decent price. With your reno budget plus trade value, you might be close to one of their coachs.
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Are you going to do the work? Or, are you trying to find a shop to do the labor for you?

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