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Old 12-31-2011, 01:48 AM   #15
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Our Journey's original Michelins lasted 51,000 miles. Still had plenty of tread but I changed them because they were nine years old. I bet they had close to 50% tread left...

Replaced with Toyos to save a few bucks. Coach wandered, tail wagged, etc like crazy after having the Toyos installed. We played with pressure, etc, to no avail. After several hundred unhappy miles, the tire shop installed Michelin's like it had from the factory. Problem solved, drives perfectly.

I really wanted to like the Toyo tires, but they caused very poor handling characteristics.

Kudos to the tire shop that credited me full cost of the Toyos.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:29 AM   #16
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I had Michelin XRV tires on my 2006 Journey and with only 16000 miles on them I had to replace because of severe sidewall cracking. I went with the Toyo M 154, 265/75R 22.5 tires and find that they have a slightly stiffer ride than the Michelin XRV's. The Toyo's were quite a bit cheaper than a set of Michelin's but the difference in ride is barely noticeable.

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Thanks, Sammie. Still concerned about the ride of the Toyo's M 154,265/75-22.5 and the handling. Was the ride bad enough to be really a problem. I kow the M154 was designed as a stiffer tire. Don't want to make a $2500 mistake.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:18 AM   #17
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From the Toyo website. May be of interest.
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:33 AM   #18
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Panda,

Toyo had a problem with National RV - - as did a lot of people because they were cutting corners. So Toyo decided that they didn't need the hassle of trying to satisfy RV Manufacturers or get involved in recalls, so they discontinued marketing their tires as "RV Tires". Still make great tires for trucks and those tires do well when put on motorhomes.

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Our Journey's original Michelins lasted 51,000 miles. Still had plenty of tread but I changed them because they were nine years old. I bet they had close to 50% tread left...

Replaced with Toyos to save a few bucks. Coach wandered, tail wagged, etc like crazy after having the Toyos installed. We played with pressure, etc, to no avail. After several hundred unhappy miles, the tire shop installed Michelin's like it had from the factory. Problem solved, drives perfectly.

I really wanted to like the Toyo tires, but they caused very poor handling characteristics.

Kudos to the tire shop that credited me full cost of the Toyos.
I also have a slight wandering problem since I had the Toyo's installed. I think maybe it's due to the stiffer sidewall. I'm going to get the front end aligned to see if it cures the wandering. No tail wagging noticed and the ride is about the same as the Michelins, but then I don't get to put on the miles that you do in a year so every time I go camping it's like a new experience for me.

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From the Toyo website. May be of interest.
When the manufacturer states that their tires are not to be used on motorhomes I would not use them for that application. Sounds like Toyo will not support you if there is a problem, not sure if they would stand behind their warranty if tires are used in a non recommended application.
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When the manufacturer states that their tires are not to be used on motorhomes I would not use them for that application. Sounds like Toyo will not support you if there is a problem, not sure if they would stand behind their warranty if tires are used in a non recommended application.
Read the notice again.

Toyo stated that their tires are not to be used on National motorhomes. They had issues with the company using under-rated tires on their motor homes and blamed Toyo.
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Thanks, Sammie. Still concerned about the ride of the Toyo's M 154,265/75-22.5 and the handling. Was the ride bad enough to be really a problem. I kow the M154 was designed as a stiffer tire. Don't want to make a $2500 mistake.

Are you sure that the 265/75 R22.5s are the correct size for your coach?

This might help you select the correct size tires.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~kwildman...cing tires.doc
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I am working on the second set of Toyos on my motorhome and one SUV. The other SUV is still working on it's first set. Results are solid. Ride is great.
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I had Michelin XRV tires on my 2006 Journey and with only 16000 miles on them I had to replace because of severe sidewall cracking. I went with the Toyo M 154, 265/75R 22.5 tires and find that they have a slightly stiffer ride than the Michelin XRV's. The Toyo's were quite a bit cheaper than a set of Michelin's but the difference in ride is barely noticeable.

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Am a little concerned about the ride since I know that the 154's is a stiffer tire but am more concerned about the handling, any difference here?
Thanks Sammy
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I also have a Beaver, what size tires did you replace? My Beaver came with Toto's but replaced them with RV670's, they need replaced also not satisfied with them. Am thinking about going back to the Toyo's.
Thanks for the info, Don S.
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Are you sure that the 265/75 R22.5s are the correct size for your coach?

This might help you select the correct size tires.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~kwildman...cing tires.doc
The 265/75-22.5 are the same diameter as the tires on the original tire chart. Have plenty of clearance for the duels. This would get my speedometer and GPS to agree.
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