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Old 04-28-2009, 11:54 AM   #1
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Toyo tires anyone? Any road wander?

I just recently purchased 6 new Toyo tires 245/75R/22.5 124Z and replaced the original Michelin XRV 235/80/R/22.5....identical size tire. I know this has been a topic of discussion in the past and wanted to put in my two cents.

What I do like about the Toyo tires is that I saved around $700.

What I don't like about them is there now is some road wonder. Before the change, it handled great. Now, it is not alot of wonder but enough. Also with the Michelin, they really hugged the road and with the toyo's...not so much!

Now, I am not a fulltimer and don't put a lot of miles on them so I can live with it based on the savings. I know there is other things to make for better handling and I already have on front a Tru davis trac bar but nothing else.

My point is even though I do not have a lot of after market suspension products, with the Michelin tires, The workhorse chasiss handled awesome.

Any comments or experiences from anyone else?

P.S. also, not to impressed with the appearance.
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Smile I like Toyo

I purchased my 2001 Alpine with Toyos all round; had to replace the steer tires at about 33,000 miles with M147's and now have 83,000 miles with plenty of tread left. I also replaced the drive tires with Toyos at about 70,000 miles. The Alpine chassis has no road wander, so I can't help there.
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Terry,

If you've not already done so, make sure the air pressure in the front tires are appropriate for you actual axle weight. Most tire dealers inflate the tires to the max pressure and that could cause the wandering, especially if they are overinflated for the load. I had the same problem when I got my new Goodyear G670's....dealer inflated them to 125 psi and the coach wandered a lot. When I got home, I used the Goodyear load inflation chart and adjusted the pressure to 105 psi, and the coach steers very well.
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smlranger....good idea!!!
they were over inflated to 110 psi from dealer and when I got home I put them at 100psi. I beleive I can go down further based on front end weight but I have never weighed the coach to be sure. That is why I left them at 100psi.

Come to think of it....it did handle a little better after the reduction but not to the point where the Michelins handled. I also kept the Michelins at 100psi.

Thanks..good advice!
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:41 AM   #5
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I sure would like to hear from any other's that have put on the Toyo tires. Bad or good reviews!
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I have use Toyo tires for years, including on the GM Workhorse chassis, and have recommended this tire for several customers. I have not heard any one with this complaint. All my customer feedback about these tires have been positive. You might want to have the alignment checked by a reputable shop, as well as the front end components inspected.
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I put 4 Toyo tires on my 34ft Brave on a workhorse W20. I have a traction tire version as I spend a lot of time in the snow. At first I had a lot of wondering. After checking the tire pressures I found that the dealer had put 120psi in the new rear tires. I reset the preasures based on my actual weights and the Toyo load charts and it now handles the same or better than with the old XRVs. It is amazing how much of a change in handling a 10psi change in pressure can have.
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I also liked the Toyo price and put 6 of them on our Beaver Marquis. I immediately had the road wander problem you describe. After 250 miles, I said enough and went back to the tire dealer. He gave me full credit and replaced the two front tires with Bridgestones. No more road wander and I was happy. Tire dealer said I was not the first one he had done this for.

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Old 05-04-2009, 12:59 AM   #9
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super rep....I am with you on that..thanks for the feedback.

I "wonder" why some folks have good luck with them and others don't? Did you try and run less psi before exhcanging them? still within weight limits of course.

As I said in my first post...no more miles than I put on them, I will live them for now. I will be taking our first long trip with them in July when we go from Phx to Colorado Springs. I will be running the minimum psi to see if it is better. I think it will help. I still think the XRV is a better handling tire. You get what you pay for I suppose.
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I "wonder" why some folks have good luck with them and others don't? Did you try and run less psi before exhcanging them? still within weight limits of course.
Our Beaver is a heavy coach and I need to run the front tires at 115 psi, so deflating was not an option.

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I have Toyo tires on my bronco, now I was later gonna put new tires on the trailer, so are you saying maybe I should not consider Toyo tires on the trailer? what kind do you sugest putting on trailer?
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I have Toyo tires on my bronco, now I was later gonna put new tires on the trailer, so are you saying maybe I should not consider Toyo tires on the trailer? what kind do you sugest putting on trailer?
No I am not saying to not consider Toyo for you trailer. I have no experience with that situation.

I think Toyo overall is a good product and they are a reputable company. Just trying to figure out how to make mine handle a little better.
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I asked my husband about the toyo tires,he works at a tire place and he said to run the psi the manufacture suggest in all tires, also the handling could be do to the weight distrubution, meaning the weight you have on board, to help pin point the weight of it and what you have packed in there onboard go to any truck stop weigh it, you can get an exact weight on the axels, it could be as simple as a few things you have put in the coach in the front,middle compartment or the rear of it, he said it could be as simple as the weight a couple of suit cases, even small weights like 1 tool box,could case just a slight lift and will case handling issues, he just had a motor coach come in for the same thing, it has all toyo tires, however the psi in all of them were different and less than the manufacture suggested, he had in it everything he was taking on a trip, he adjusted the psi in each tire, then sent him to the truck stop to weigh it to see the axel weights, this coach was carring to much stuff put in the back compaartments 1 tool box and 5 boxes of stuff, thats it, he shifted some weight drove about 500 miles and called him ,and bingo, much better handling, he said something as simple as a 10 psi difference and 10lbs weight can make that big a difference, its only $8 to scale it and would be worth the cost to check the axel weights and the psi as well so try that
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thanks Buehler740....good info to know! I do keep psi to manf. specs. I will do the weight check also to know for sure.
My original point to this thread though was the comparison of Michelin xrv and the toyo's. Before I changed from the xrv's to the toyo....the handling was fantastic and I have changed nothing in regards to psi or carrying weight after the change.
Thanks again for the info.
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