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Old 03-13-2015, 06:17 AM   #15
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The Vigia system might be "the ultimate" but it is totally impractical and for RV use. How many RV owners are going to put air plumbing IN their axles. Does any RV owner actually have a Vigia system?
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The Vigia system might be "the ultimate" but it is totally impractical and for RV use. How many RV owners are going to put air plumbing IN their axles. Does any RV owner actually have a Vigia system?
Actually I have seen a number of the systems installed on motorhomes. The system is required for over the road buses in Mexico so it is a proven system. It is very easy to install. I see no reason for it to be "impractical" for any use.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:47 AM   #17
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Actually I have seen a number of the systems installed on motorhomes. The system is required for over the road buses in Mexico so it is a proven system. It is very easy to install. I see no reason for it to be "impractical" for any use.
The Vigia System is not required on Buses and Over the Road Trucks in Mexico they simply have a dealer in Mexico. The PSI Auto Inflation System sold by Meritor the one you see on 85% of every trailer in the US, as well as 49 other countries is by far the best Auto Inflation System on the market, and they have partnered with TST(the Exclusive Aftermarket TPMS of PACCAR parent company of Peterbilt and Kenworth) and have patented a new hose that has a port for the TST Sensor, this will allow the end user to not only have Auto Inflation but real time TPMS. I would be very leary of having anything connected to internal rotor system. Directly to the valve stem is easier safer proven way to go.
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" I would be very leary of having anything connected to internal rotor system. Directly to the valve stem is easier safer proven way to go."

The Vigia system does have an external rotor system that goes directly to the valve stem through a one way valve so that no air is lost from the tire if one of the hoses breaks.
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With a cross fire system, if one of the dual tires suddenly loses air, how do you prevent the other dual tire from losing air too?

I think having a TPMS is absolutely essential. Based on my experience, I think it's important to have a complete set of tire pressure monitors as a backup spare.

Most know of our experience last year, when TST sent our new tire pressure monitors to our billing address instead of our travel address. This put us on the road with non functioning tire pressure monitors, and during that time we had a steer tire failure. That was scary to say the least.

This year, I sent our TPMS system to TST on Feb 2, for evaluation, repair or replacement and immediate return for our upcoming planned trip near the end of February. The folks at TST repaired the sytem and shipped it back on Feb 17. The package has been lost in the vast sea of the U.S. postal service ever since.

We just completed a 2000 mile run with absolutely NO TPMS.

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With a cross fire system, if one of the dual tires suddenly loses air, how do you prevent the other dual tire from losing air too?...
See my post #6 on previous page.
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With a cross fire system, if one of the dual tires suddenly loses air, how do you prevent the other dual tire from losing air too?
From Crossfire documentation:

"Crossfire has a safety feature that automatically isolates the “good” tire in the event of a blowout. When a blowout occurs, the internal safety valve closes immediately with only a slight loss of pressure to the “good” tire.
In slow leak situations, the valve isolates both tires after a pressure drop of approximately 10 P.S.I."
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So why can't you put one TPS monitor on the crossfire valve? That would mean just buying 4 sensors and not six?


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If I could get the Crossfire properly installed I'd use both.

Crossfire you can get an optional model with two valve stems

Put a SINGLE TMPS monitor on one of them

Use the other as a Fill Port

Question: How does this protect both tires?

Answer. Assuming 100 PSI (Due to making the math easy).

IF one tire develops a slow leak, BOTH tires will drop to the cut off point,but long before that the TPMS will alarm and you can re-inflate

IF one tire goes suddenly flat,,THE TPMS will alarm

IF it alarms at ZERO, it is the tire the TPMS is connected to
at 75PSI it is the other one.
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TPMS or CROSSFIRE DUAL TIRE EQUALIZER?

All well and good, but I don't see a true benefit.
100 bucks of Crossfire vs 100 bucks of sensors, and all it saves is topping off 2 tires a couple times per year. I have 12 sensors. Going to 10 is not a bonus, me thinks. But I will know which dually has a slow leak.
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Equal points of interest in the last two posts. I'm thing new more accessible valve stems especially because oft wheel liners and going with 6 sensors.

Thanks for your input.
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