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Old 03-18-2015, 11:54 AM   #799
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:13 PM   #801
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350 cummings, my American eagle has a 10,000 lb. trailer capacity. My trailer loaded weights 9500. It has a 14,000 gvw.
Interesting.

I pull a similar 9,000 lb trailer and am looking to upgrade the coach. I have found a nice 42' Phaeton tag with a Cummins 360, but am concerned about not having enough oomph.

How do you find pulling yours with a 350?
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:26 PM   #802
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Interesting.

I pull a similar 9,000 lb trailer and am looking to upgrade the coach. I have found a nice 42' Phaeton tag with a Cummins 360, but am concerned about not having enough oomph.

How do you find pulling yours with a 350?
I pull a 28 foot trailer weighing about 10,000 pounds with a 325 Cummins with no power adders. No problems. I out pull most tractor trailers on long steep hills. You really do not need any more power, you will cruise at 65, it will never be a hot rod. You will be fine.
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Old 03-19-2015, 12:58 AM   #803
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45' Silver Crown with a 36' Elite Stacker.
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Old 03-19-2015, 05:24 AM   #804
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Interesting.

I pull a similar 9,000 lb trailer and am looking to upgrade the coach. I have found a nice 42' Phaeton tag with a Cummins 360, but am concerned about not having enough oomph.

How do you find pulling yours with a 350?
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I pull a 28 foot trailer weighing about 10,000 pounds with a 325 Cummins with no power adders. No problems. I out pull most tractor trailers on long steep hills. You really do not need any more power, you will cruise at 65, it will never be a hot rod. You will be fine.
Just for comparison's sake, our previous coach was a 38' 1991 Beaver Contessa that was only powered by a 300hp CAT (3208 which only had about 750 ft/lbs of torque) and only a 4-speed Allison transmission weighing in at just over 29k pounds on the scale. It towed our 8500 pound 24' enclosed race trailer around most of the western U.S. for seven years and 50k+ miles.

Like Glenn said, it was no hot rod but it did it fine. Trailer handled great behind that coach and on the grades I just fell in line with the semi's.

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45' Silver Crown with a 36' Elite Stacker.
Nice rig. Did you paint your trailer or is this a new one? I noticed the one in your avatar appears to be painted.

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heres a 300hp cummins pull'n 30,000 gcvw 6% grade

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here's 32,000 lb with a cat 350hp...860 torque....same trailer 24' box 6% grade

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heres a stock ford v10 same trailer..gcvw 23,000 6% grade

all three of these motorhomes were stock... all three were mine and all three ran at the same ambient temp.....


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45' Silver Crown with a 36' Elite Stacker.
So judging by scale, you must be around 90 feet long.
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Thanks for the responses re the hp guys.

I am currently pulling a 26' trailer with a 05, 34' Monaco Cayman with ISB300. Power is by no means 'overwhelming', but I just move over to the right lane on the grades. I can cruise @ 70 mph all day long on the flat, but worry that I might somewhat be taxing the engine since I have literally no overhead.

Other than wishing for some power reserves, so that it's not working so hard, what I really want is extra wheelbase for stability. And of course, the SO needs more kitchen counter.

A close friend told me to not consider anything with less than a 4 as the first digit of the hp number because I would regret it. Others have said similar, but they had coaches to sell.

Towing ease and capacity is important to me because 100% of our RV'ing is with the loaded trailer.

The Phaeton is an 08, somewhat of a peach, and the price is right... but it's 'only' a 360. I had sort of written it off as an option, but will now look closer.

Thanks again.
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Here's a page out of my owners manual about a equalizer hitch. GlennLever was inquiring about it.
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Here's a page out of my owners manual about a equalizer hitch. GlennLever was inquiring about it.
Awesome. Thanks for posting that. The topic of weight distributing hitches has come up multiple times but this is the first time I have seen documentation to back it up.

I use a W-D hitch and I continually am told by people I am wrong for using it. I have used a W-D hitch on my last two coaches as well with positive results and will continue. Monaco doesn't have a disclaimer like the one you posted but I talked to a few chassis techs a few years ago and they basically said the same thing as that decal states, just not "formally".

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