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Old 06-26-2015, 08:36 AM   #897
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Not exactly a 'trailer', but here's our normal 'toad'... On steep grades, I fire up the boat to help push us up the hill.

Itasca 30 ft. Crownline 26.5 ft. Overall = too dang much to see little cars!
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Old 06-26-2015, 10:08 AM   #898
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Not exactly a 'trailer', but here's our normal 'toad'... On steep grades, I fire up the boat to help push us up the hill.

Itasca 30 ft. Crownline 26.5 ft. Overall = too dang much to see little cars!
Used to have a 21.5 bow rider Crownline. Nice boat
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Not exactly a 'trailer', but here's our normal 'toad'... On steep grades, I fire up the boat to help push us up the hill.

Itasca 30 ft. Crownline 26.5 ft. Overall = too dang much to see little cars!
Leave your back up camera on all the time. I tow a 24 ft sailboat, (63ft total) and have no trouble seeing anything in the camera.
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Both the Vista and the '65 Mustang are history, but I still have the trailer. We now have an Itasca 35F and use it to tow a '13 Mustang convertible when not using the dolly to tow the wife's Focus

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Old 06-29-2015, 08:44 AM   #901
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Same trailer as before, but new-to-me 40' tag coach. Pulls much, much nicer than the 34' Cayman.
Nice looking coach/trailer setup.

Couple of questions out of curiosity. Does your Allure have the Cummins ISL? How does it pull the trailer and what is the weight of your trailer fully loaded? Weight of the coach?

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Nice looking coach/trailer setup.

Couple of questions out of curiosity. Does your Allure have the Cummins ISL? How does it pull the trailer and what is the weight of your trailer fully loaded? Weight of the coach?

Thanks.

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Yes, ISL 400.

Trailer is at 9,500 fully loaded, but I haven't had a chance to weigh the coach yet. GVWR is 45,000, and GCWR is 55,000.

There's 'enough' power; it's not a hot rod, but it's a solid pull. Cruise all day at 67 mph @ 1700 rpm.

Compared to the previous 34', the tag, longer wheel base, and air brakes make all the difference in the world. If I pass or get passed by semi's, I don't feel a thing.

I haven't had time to install the trailer brake controller yet, but really don't feel that I need it. I will only install it to be legal. The Jake brake is a heck of a good feature, and coming off the highway, there's no need to even touch the brake pedal until hitting the stop sign.

Total length is 70'.
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Yes, ISL 400.

Trailer is at 9,500 fully loaded, but I haven't had a chance to weigh the coach yet. GVWR is 45,000, and GCWR is 55,000.

There's 'enough' power; it's not a hot rod, but it's a solid pull. Cruise all day at 67 mph @ 1700 rpm.

Compared to the previous 34', the tag, longer wheel base, and air brakes make all the difference in the world. If I pass or get passed by semi's, I don't feel a thing.

I haven't had time to install the trailer brake controller yet, but really don't feel that I need it. I will only install it to be legal. The Jake brake is a heck of a good feature, and coming off the highway, there's no need to even touch the brake pedal until hitting the stop sign.

Total length is 70'.
Sounds similar to our 40' Dynasty with the ISL 400. Not a hot rod but it gets the job done fairly easily, don't think I would want to be any heavier though. Our trailer when loaded is 12,500 pounds and it pulls all day long at 67 MPH @ ~1750 RPM. Slows a bit on the grades but I am usually still passing OTR trucks and some coaches. Seven and eight percent grades really work it though, down to around 35 MPH on them.

On a side note, I would highly recommend a trailer brake controller, more than to just be legal. They really help with braking, especially in an emergency or hard stop situation. You don't want that nearly 10k pounds pushing you, you want the assistance of those extra two axles to knock that speed down quickly.

I adjust mine to where I barely feel the trailer in a stopping situation and then back off slightly. This technique puts the trailer brakes and coach brakes very closely in unison for even and safe braking.

Again, great looking setup.

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Just setting my trailer up... wrap to match the motor home on the 15th...will have a large winged harley eagle on the back with "Let's Roll" in the banner...66 ft....hauling one ultra and my wife's trike.


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A couple of you guys worry me a little, one of you has a 9500 lb trailer with no brake controller and the other has a 12,500 lb trailer on what should be a 10k hitch. My first motorhome had a 5k hitch and after I bought it I looked closely at it and the metal had fatigued and cracked to the point of almost falling off. I had a new Hitch welded on. As for using the Jake or exhaust brake to stop your rig rather than the brakes, I hope you are adjusting the self adjusters by blocking the wheels, turning off the parking brake and pressing down on the brake pedal hard for about 10 seconds repeating about 6 times. I was just reading about the fact that we are too good with our brakes because of the Jake and the adjusters never have a chance to self adjust. Google it if you have any questions.
Don't mean to offend, just very safety conscious.
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A couple of you guys worry me a little, one of you has a 9500 lb trailer with no brake controller and the other has a 12,500 lb trailer on what should be a 10k hitch. My first motorhome had a 5k hitch and after I bought it I looked closely at it and the metal had fatigued and cracked to the point of almost falling off. I had a new Hitch welded on. As for using the Jake or exhaust brake to stop your rig rather than the brakes, I hope you are adjusting the self adjusters by blocking the wheels, turning off the parking brake and pressing down on the brake pedal hard for about 10 seconds repeating about 6 times. I was just reading about the fact that we are too good with our brakes because of the Jake and the adjusters never have a chance to self adjust. Google it if you have any questions.
Don't mean to offend, just very safety conscious.

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Well I'm with Steve on this one, all its gonna take is 1 Panic stop or a steep down hill grade and there's gonna be trouble, I would never leave my driveway without my Trailer Brakes working. In Fact I change the Trailer Brakes every other January.
Moving on- Some nice looking rigs on here !
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Brakes on a trailer are there for a reason, put the controller in and use it.

Before hauling my current trailer I talked with the chassis manufacture and then installed a 16,000 pound hitch and added additional chassis contact points to spread the stress points.


Having follow zmotorsports projects I am sure he has done the research to know that his chassis can handle the weight and braking with safety.
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A couple of you guys worry me a little, one of you has a 9500 lb trailer with no brake controller and the other has a 12,500 lb trailer on what should be a 10k hitch. My first motorhome had a 5k hitch and after I bought it I looked closely at it and the metal had fatigued and cracked to the point of almost falling off. I had a new Hitch welded on. As for using the Jake or exhaust brake to stop your rig rather than the brakes, I hope you are adjusting the self adjusters by blocking the wheels, turning off the parking brake and pressing down on the brake pedal hard for about 10 seconds repeating about 6 times. I was just reading about the fact that we are too good with our brakes because of the Jake and the adjusters never have a chance to self adjust. Google it if you have any questions.
Don't mean to offend, just very safety conscious.
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No need to worry about my setup. I have taken necessary steps to ensure the safety and integrity of my rig and its towing components. Safety on any of my vehicles whether daily drivers or race is of the highest priority. I also do this for a living and have had a couple decades of experience, I don't merely get my information from the internet which is why I hessitate many times to even post my setup because it seems to draw out the weight and the length police.

My position still stands on the trailer braking however.

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Having follow zmotorsports projects I am sure he has done the research to know that his chassis can handle the weight and braking with safety.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Glenn. I appreciate it even though I hessitated on my post before I made it for this very reason.

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A couple of you guys worry me a little, one of you has a 9500 lb trailer with no brake controller and the other has a 12,500 lb trailer on what should be a 10k hitch. My first motorhome had a 5k hitch and after I bought it I looked closely at it and the metal had fatigued and cracked to the point of almost falling off. I had a new Hitch welded on. As for using the Jake or exhaust brake to stop your rig rather than the brakes, I hope you are adjusting the self adjusters by blocking the wheels, turning off the parking brake and pressing down on the brake pedal hard for about 10 seconds repeating about 6 times. I was just reading about the fact that we are too good with our brakes because of the Jake and the adjusters never have a chance to self adjust. Google it if you have any questions.
Don't mean to offend, just very safety conscious.
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Good point about adjusting the, uh, self-adjusters, I was not aware.

Re the brake controller, it's going on for sure: I've found the brake switch, spare circuit in the fuse box, and have mounted the controller. I just need to run the wires and hook it all up. I'm surprised that these coaches did not come with the "rough in" for this.

My previous coach, 34' with hydraulic brakes, felt like it could barely stop the rig, even with a working trailer brake controller. On this one, I can barely tell that I am towing anything.

Of course, the trailer was almost 50% of the Cayman's weight, whereas now, it's more like 20%.

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