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Old 01-06-2015, 09:12 AM   #1
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Tribute 27b vs 33d Excursion..

what will tow more???
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If you have access to both units; look for the factory weights sticker.
The difference between GVWR and GCWR on the stickers will be the tow weight rating.
If your dealing on units that are out of town , have the seller e mail you photos of the weight stickers.
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If you have access to both units; look for the factory weights sticker.
The difference between GVWR and GCWR on the stickers will be the tow weight rating.
If your dealing on units that are out of town , have the seller e mail you photos of the weight stickers.
thanks for the reply,...

here's what I got


the 27b GCVW is 23,000... GVW is 16,000
unloaded weight with fluids is 13,8000

so if you take the 16,000 minus 13,800 leaves 2200 lbs you can add to the coach in cluding tongue weight of the trailer

that leaves 7,000 GVW of trailer.....which means the weigh that would show on the third axel of the scale.....

soooo... If you back up to the GCVW (gross combined vec. weight)
which is 23,000 lbs.. minus unloaded vec weight.13,800.. leaves 9,200 lbs
of cargo and trailer...

sound about right???
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what will tow more???
Hey, man you just bought the Tribute, it's not even broke in yet! You're not being tempted into trading again are you? Just ribbing you a bit there.

PS-I liked your pictures of your setup out at Armagosa!
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Hey, man you just bought the Tribute, it's not even broke in yet! You're not being tempted into trading again are you? Just ribbing you a bit there.

PS-I liked your pictures of your setup out at Armagosa!
not broke in....but broken
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You are probably limited to 5k lbs on trailer/tow weight due to hitch rating.
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You are probably limited to 5k lbs on trailer/tow weight due to hitch rating.
I up my hitches to 10k and add trailer brakes
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anyone know the weights on the excursion 33 or the plazzo 33
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not broke in....but broken
I get the feeling that what you want is more power. Here's a little bit of info on a screamer. Winnebago screwed up in 2009 and put a big 6.7L Cummins ISB XT 350 hp diesel in a 34 foot long MH (the Journey/Meridian 34Y). That engine puts out 750 ft-lbs of torque.

For 2010 they realized that they had made a rocket in 2009 so they downsized the engine to a 340 hp diesel with only 660 ft-lbs of torque. The 2009's are hard to get, they don't come up for sale very often.

Here's one that just came up for sale at Lichtsinn Motors, just a mile down the road from the Winnebago factory. He's got the price too high but will probably come down $20-25K.

Used 2009 Winnebago Journey 34Y Motor Home Class A - Diesel at Lichtsinn Motors Forest City Iowa Lichtsinn Motors

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i get the feeling that what you want is more power. Here's a little bit of info on a screamer. Winnebago screwed up in 2009 and put a big 6.7l cummins isb xt 350 hp diesel in a 34 foot long mh (the journey/meridian 34y). That engine puts out 750 ft-lbs of torque.

For 2010 they realized that they had made a rocket in 2009 so they downsized the engine to a 340 hp diesel with only 660 ft-lbs of torque. The 2009's are hard to get, they don't come up for sale very often.

Here's one that just came up for sale at lichtsinn motors, just a mile down the road from the winnebago factory. He's got the price too high but will probably come down $20-25k.

used 2009 winnebago journey 34y motor home class a - diesel at lichtsinn motors forest city iowa lichtsinn motors

life's a journey in a 2009 winnebago journey 34y
isn't the v10 more power???
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There are two types of Class A motorhomes: Those you drive because you have to – it’s the
only way you can get to where you’re going – and those you love to drive. Winnebago’s Journey 34Y is definitely an example of the latter.
Powered by a spirited 350-hp Cummins ISB diesel, the nimble Winnie is a barrel of fun to
drive no matter what type of terrain and conditions road engineers and Mother Nature throw
at it. Living in it is not too shabby, either.

The 34Y is built on Freightliner’s fully air-suspended XC chassis fitted
with an Allison 3000MH transmission and four-wheel ABS air brakes. Grace the cab with very
comfy seats, a one-piece windshield for superior visibility and ergonomic instrumentation,
and the driver will be hard pressed to vacate the captain’s mount, other than to take
breaks to answer nature’s call or refuel the coach and his or her stomach.

Part of the
experience is attributed to the amazing quiet inside this coach while on the road. Even the
notorious expansion joints on concrete highway couldn’t rattle the interior, although
potholes managed to break the near silence. Obviously, this is a great testament to the
overall fit and finish of the interior components – and the smooth-riding features of the
Freightliner platform.

We carefully checked fuel economy, covering 1,200 miles over varied
terrain and speed. The best mileage was on flat highway, traveling 60-62 mph, where we
recorded 10.7 mpg. It dipped to 7.6 mpg while scooting over California’s infamous Donner
Pass at a constant 65 mph. Surprisingly, the mileage did not dip that much when we took the
speed up to 65-70 mph on flat highway; here we recorded 9.5 mpg. Even the stint that
included California’s notorious Grapevine only reduced fuel consumption to 8.8 mpg.

As
indicated above, pulling grades came easy to the 34-foot Winnie. We hit the hard parts of a 6 percent climb going 65 mph and
eventually dropped to 55 mph before cresting the hill. Going down, the exhaust brakes
helped control speed to 50 mph, and by the time we hit the bottom, we needed to work the
fuel pedal to move us up from 46 mph.

Inside, the interior is transformed by a full-wall
slide on the driver’s side and slides in the bedroom and the opposite wall in the front
living room. Once fully opened, the coach looks much bigger than a 34-footer. Outside of a
few quirks, the floor-plan works amazingly well, affording exceptional livability for two
people. By the time you turn the cockpit chairs, position the Euro chair and add the two
extra folding chairs to the freestanding dinette, the coach can seat nine comfortably. When
the table is retracted, it provides perfect accommodations for two diners. It extends far
enough to add the two folding chairs, but the lip created by the slide-out floor makes
four-chair positioning a little tight.

The expanse of vinyl flooring from the cockpit to
the rear bedroom works well with the cherry cabinetry and curved wall that encloses the
curbside bathroom. The eye candy is continued with the Corian kitchen counter-tops and
brushed stainless-looking appliance fronts. While not huge, the L-shaped galley works
exceptionally well.

So does the bathroom. The corner shower is luxurious and roomy, and
would be even more appreciated by upgrading the fixtures. Corian graces the oval sink, and
the large china-bowl toilet and suitable cabinetry/drawers round out the list of functional
items. Floor space in the bathroom is disproportionately large without feeling like it
takes up too much square footage for a coach this size.

If you prefer the king bed out back
(queen is available), you’ll need to wrap your arms around the fact it will occupy the
greater portion of bedroom space. That means you’ll have limited legroom between the
mattress (optional $770 Sleep Number unit in the test coach) and rear sliding-door closet.
The chest of drawers at the foot of the bed houses another flat-screen LCD TV and the
optional ($448) DVD player and stereo system. An optional washer/dryer can be installed in
the corner cabinetry since the plumbing fixtures are provided by the factory.

Keep in mind
that the rear closets and cabinets can only be accessed by climbing over the bed when the
slides are retracted. That posed little concern for us; we were more annoyed with the
limited access to the bathroom while on the road because the Euro chair butts up to the
galley counter, blocking the aisle. The space loss is exacerbated by the structure needed
to enclose the outside entertainment center. If the outside flat-screen TV and audio
components ($1,386) are opted for, the required box formed on the inside wall pushes the
Euro chair closer to the kitchen counter.

The other exterior compartments are accessible
via side-hinged doors, which make access much more convenient (even the ones below the
extended slide-outs). And they are big enough to handle most of the gear typical owners will
take along. There’s a little pass-through space for longer items, although height is
restricted. The utility compartment makes it easy to hook up to water and sewer; the 50-amp
power cable is stored in an adjacent compartment.

In a nutshell, Winnebago has pulled off
the type of coach that offers the best of all worlds: A nimble machine that gets good fuel
economy, is incredibly fun to drive and is loaded with all the goodies discriminating
owners appreciate – and expect.

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isn't the v10 more power???
Not even close. The V10 only has 457 ft-lbs of torque, the ISB has over 750 ft-lbs. Plus the V-10 only has a five speed tranny. The diesel has a six speed Allison tranny.
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Not even close. The V10 only has 457 ft-lbs of torque, the ISB has over 750 ft-lbs. Plus the V-10 only has a five speed tranny. The diesel has a six speed Allison tranny.
yeah, but it weighs 12,000 lbs more

only has 5200 lbs for cargo...include ing trailer...

my little Winnie went up the same grade loaded ,pulling the trailer as the journey did empty
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Not even close. The V10 only has 457 ft-lbs of torque, the ISB has over 750 ft-lbs. Plus the V-10 only has a five speed tranny. The diesel has a six speed Allison tranny.
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