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Old 01-01-2013, 01:18 PM   #1
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Trying to decide Newmar or Holiday

2 coaches same year 2009s same $$$$$$. close to same mileage 14000, + - 2000 of each other. 1 tag (newmar 43ft) 1 no tag (holiday 40 ft ). Both ride and drive great. Same floorplan. Same basics (tvs, king beds, frige, tile, carpet, basement trays 2 each, new batteries,& tires, Newmar has the aqua hot (desiel) heat and hot water system. Holiday does not. ( Newmar has some little things Holiday does not, Holiday has some little things Newmar does not.) not a deciding factores. Newmar as 4point leveling. Holiday has 3 point leveling. Heard 4 point levling pops solid front winshields? Holiday 3point Seems like it may rock a little more?. Seems like a pain to put pad under front foot when encountering softer ground. (under center between capton chairs) . Also heard Holiday has had some leak problems in wet bay area on slide by sink. This one seems fine. Any one have pros and cons. Like them both

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Old 01-01-2013, 01:29 PM   #2
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Any difference in motors?

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Old 01-01-2013, 01:32 PM   #3
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I would think that the tag, aqua hot and 3 more ft of living space in the Newmar would be a huge benefit. If I liked both floor plans it would be a easy decision for me.
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #4
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same size engines 400hp
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:35 PM   #5
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The only mistake I made when buying was not getting a TAG AXLE! and then go from there. Number 1 priority next time.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:34 PM   #6
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I am partial to Newmar but even if I was not, I would probably go for the Newmar. Sounds like more coach for the money with some things that make it a better coach. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:42 PM   #7
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As you can see by my signature we went with a Monaco, but in this case if both floor plans are pretty much equal and work for you I have to agree that I would go for the Newmar, the tag axle and aquahot alone would be the deciding factor.

We went with the Diplomat over a Dutch Star cause of floorplan, and have to say preferred the handling of the RoadMaster RR10 Chassis.
But would definitely prefer the tag to non tag chassis.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:19 PM   #8
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hey trapps. have ya heard of or had problems with wet bay slide leaks?
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:27 PM   #9
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3point level

Traps 90 one more thing how about the 3point leveling any coments
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:29 PM   #10
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Three point leveling is not an issue. I use my awning rod to place the blocks. The rear are actually harder for me to reach for some reason. I would sure love a tag axel and the more I think about it the aquahot would have been a bit better for boondocking because of getting fuel. I think I like the idea of the Nemar because they have not been into bankruptcy??? No telling how sincere the current company is going to be. I went thorough this with an airplane mfgr. Each new one promised support and better features. The company no longer exists.
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I've had 2 newmars that I have never had any problems with,If I were to get anything it would be a newmar.
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I know you said the rides were both good, and I like and recommend tags and Aqua Hot. But I wonder what model the Holiday is, so we can understand the chassis. Roadmaster has entry - mid - higher end chassis, all dependent upon model.

Three feet makes a difference too...

So probably regardless of the chassis, I would lean towards the Newmar. Just wondering which one it is...

The ISL is in our 40' Country Coach with tag, in 370HP version (same 1200 lbs torque). And I do note that the extra weight of the tag, does get felt when climbing hills. I would imagine the 43' would have 3' more of weight over the 40', and then add in the weight, and you may find you have more power to weight ratio with the Holiday. To me, I would still go with the Newmar for the reasons stated, but it could be a bit slower on the hills.

I like the higher up the food chain Monaco's, Dynasty/Executive (and equivalent in the Beaver/Holiday brand) - so not knocking Monaco.

Best of luck on your decision.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:06 PM   #14
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Based on the info given, I'd go with the Newmar for sure. The tag will give you a better ride and, more importantly, thousands of pounds more CCC. And the Aqua-Hot is a several-thousand-$ option on any coach. In fact, I would guess that the original MSRP (not that it really matters) of the Newmar was much higher than the HR.

But as with any used coach, make sure the tires, batteries, etc. are good, and if not, negotiate new ones into the deal, or add the replacement cost to your comparison.

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