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Old 05-12-2015, 08:54 AM   #15
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I'm interested in hearing how the Safe-t-Plus would have helped in this situation. I have read of others installing it for ease of driving but this could be another point in favor of having it installed.
Here is a older video on the Safe T plus & blowouts:

Classic Safe-T-Plus Blowout Protection Video | Safe-T-Plus - The Steering Control Specialists
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:55 AM   #16
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Damn scary. He was moving pretty fast for sure. Miracle no one was killed
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:05 AM   #17
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CriKEYS that happened fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about no time to react.

You're totally right about him blowing past that semi, I would love to know his current speed at the time that happens.

When I had my 40', I would usually stick to 55 for two reasons.

A. My mpg stayed above 6
B. For fear of this happening at high speed.

That Tuscany was booking...
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:15 AM   #18
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CriKEYS that happened fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about no time to react.

You're totally right about him blowing past that semi, I would love to know his current speed at the time that happens.

When I had my 40', I would usually stick to 55 for two reasons.

A. My mpg stayed above 6
B. For fear of this happening at high speed.

That Tuscany was booking...
I must agree that I think he was traveling pretty fast. It always amazes me when I see people towing large trailers or vehicles out in the fast lane going 70 mph.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:52 AM   #19
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I drive that stretch regularly, I would bet the truck was going 70 which is the speed limit (cars and trucks).

I got to see the video this morning and noticed a few things.

1. I wonder if when passing the truck he got pushed over to the left, the apron on that side is not much, and his steer tire either scrubbed or dropped off causing it to blow.

2. If it did just blow, again, there isn't much apron to use.

3. Wonder if he nailed the gas like the videos show? In the video it looks like he lost a lot of speed very quickly, like he had already dropped off onto the median or hit the brakes.

4. It is 100% clear in what I saw that the barrier is what kept him straight and scrubbed off a lot of speed in combination with the soft medians we have here. It is also clear to me that the cable barrier probably saved the lives of the people passing before the rig broke thru them. Luckily there was a break in the traffic when he ended up in the opposite lane!

5. Due to the soft medians and the fact that we have had a lot of rain in the past few weeks, once the tires on that side of the rig hit the grass there was no way he was not going to at least end up in the median.

6. I wonder if he was not going at such a high rate of speed, if the cables and the drag from the soft median would have stopped him before he ended up on his side in the other lanes.

7. He is very lucky it wasn't a right front blowout, with that rig so close.

8. I think the State Police Facebook page misrepresented the weight. I would think that he was over 20,000 lbs. given the DP, but I do not know the dry weight or GCVWR of that rig.

Just a few of my observations, and glad no one was seriously hurt. I do have Steer Safe on mine, but I don't drive that fast.
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Don't assume that the truck was doing the posted speed limit. Most big trucking companies have their trucks governed anywhere from 60 to 68 mph for fuel economy. I worked for a short time for an outfit that had theirs set at 62mph. Don't assume driving 15 to 20 mph below the speed limit is always the safest thing either.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:25 AM   #21
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What I found so ironic is that just last night I watched a video produced by Michelin on blowouts. I found the remedies to be counterintuitive to common sense.

1. Pedal to the metal to overcome side forces.
2. Don't run high RPM so that you have reserve power to pull coach straight.

Glad they only had minor injuries. I was amazed at how well the house stayed together. I have seen travel trailer aftermaths and it looked like they had exploded.

Just pray I never have to go thru the experience of a blow out.
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In the picture, you can see the left front tire is shredded and the right is in tact.

It amazes me how well towed vehicles hang on in wrecks like this...

I am GOING TO GET a safety steer system A.S.A.P.!!
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I like the products and mine will be here tomorrow, but geezzz... I think its about time for a new video... Circa 1972...
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Don't assume that the truck was doing the posted speed limit. Most big trucking companies have their trucks governed anywhere from 60 to 68 mph for fuel economy. I worked for a short time for an outfit that had theirs set at 62mph. Don't assume driving 15 to 20 mph below the speed limit is always the safest thing either.
Even if that truck was doing 60 that RV was easily 15-20 mph over that and to me that's too fast. If the truck was going even faster than 60, it's just way too fast in that RV. Tires aren't even rated for that speed.

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What I found so ironic is that just last night I watched a video produced by Michelin on blowouts. I found the remedies to be counterintuitive to common sense.

1. Pedal to the metal to overcome side forces.
2. Don't run high RPM so that you have reserve power to pull coach straight.

Glad they only had minor injuries. I was amazed at how well the house stayed together. I have seen travel trailer aftermaths and it looked like they had exploded.

Just pray I never have to go thru the experience of a blow out.
That RV is toast so not sure it held up as well as you imply. It just didn't come apart like an F1 race car.
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Also a great reminder why seat belts matter Can you imagine how easy it would be to have been ejected through the windshield and then rolled over by your own bus.

At the ttttail end of the when the RV goes out of view, you can see it literally flip 100% over to land on it's passenger side.

I also think about how my little dogs used to sleep right in front of the passenger seat..... I'd hate to lose them that way.

Speed kills.

I reckon the 18 wheeler was around 58-60-65 by the speed of the passing white lines. Regardless, in a front blowout, I always think you have very very very little time to react, and you know how the road does you... you get sort of lulled into those lines mile after mile.... and then you have all of sudden have a nano-second to get a grip on the situation? Scary stuff.
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Another thing I just noticed. immediately prior to blowout, the RV's right blinker turns on.

What that says to me is the the drivers eye's were just hitting that mirror to be sure he was clear to start his lane change, he's monitoring speed, distance, mirror, blinker, lane change - BOOM right under his butt, off the road. WHAMMO

Just the action of passing another vehicle can be a whole set of distractions in itself. Especially when high speed is required to make the pass.

So just "how badly" do you really need to pass that 18 wheeler?
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Don't assume that the truck was doing the posted speed limit. Most big trucking companies have their trucks governed anywhere from 60 to 68 mph for fuel economy. I worked for a short time for an outfit that had theirs set at 62mph. Don't assume driving 15 to 20 mph below the speed limit is always the safest thing either.
Very true on the speed of the rig and the safety of driving that much slower. I just started thinking about it, if the company he was driving for had the dash cam put in, his stated speed was probably correct! Otherwise very easy to tell if he was telling a lie.

Usually when we go thru that area, the rigs are blasting past me!

Watched the video again, and it would make since that he may have punched it to make it past the rig quicker. I have been guilty of the same thing a time or two. I think I will think twice about that next time.
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