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Old 08-05-2014, 05:01 PM   #1
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Upper running lights is there a law?

is it a law to have upper running lights ?? my factory lights are plain
stupid there is a 1'' hole drilled in to coach and is a pain to keep them
from leaking bought new ones and they dont come with gaskets and they
dont sell gaskets was thinging off filling in hole and mounting the lens only
a] motorhome is low profile b] they can barly be seen at night c] all most
never drive at night so is there a law ? cops gona bust me ?
see picture there mounted flush about 1'' x 3 1/2 '' odd size made by grote
for semi trailers any thoughts thanks
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Old 08-05-2014, 05:14 PM   #2
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Check with your local DMV as the laws will vary state to state. I believe if it were titled in Texas the vehicle would not pass an inspection.

Why not just use a quality sealer behind the new lenses?
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Old 08-05-2014, 05:58 PM   #3
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Yes

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http:// http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/TBMpstr.html
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:53 PM   #4
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This does not really address the question (Which the last response answers with cites and authority anyway) but.

A good rule of thumb, guideline, whatever is this:

Whatever was factory installed, as regards lights and safety and environmental controls. And such.. Is required and disabling it can get you in trouble.

There are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part, That will hold.
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Usually a requirement to have them on the extremities looking at front and back, but often no requirement to have extras in between so they can probably be removed.
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When I read the DOT chart one on each side plus the middle as high as possible same as trucks and buses but to each his own. What funny is all the truckers with all those lights that are not required can be ticketed if any of them are out. The site I referance was the federal. National Highway Safety Administration which governs all on road vehicles.
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thanks for all the help and imfo i will look for some other type of lights
to use thanks
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Usually a requirement to have them on the extremities looking at front and back, but often no requirement to have extras in between so they can probably be removed.
If you read the D.O.T. document referenced above you will see that both the front and read corner clearance lamps and the three identification lamps between them are required for vehicles over 2032mm (6'8") wide.

OnEdit: Typo correction 8'6" changed to 6'8".
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When I read the DOT chart one on each side plus the middle as high as possible same as trucks and buses but to each his own. What funny is all the truckers with all those lights that are not required can be ticketed if any of them are out. The site I referance was the federal. National Highway Safety Administration which governs all on road vehicles.


As stated DOT requires them, if the lights are attached to mv {truck, trailer mh etc.}they must be working. The fine having 1 clearance ,marker light out on a
commercial vehicle starts at about 165.00 & up,plus points on your CDL.

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LED sealed lights are your best bet, pricey but you will never have to change them. Check local truckstops, sometimes they have a good selection. Also use good quality silicone sealer around the openings and screw holes.

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Missouri inspection does not require they work, according to my inspector!
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Don't remember the name but I bought some rubber gasket material fro I think NAPA and cut my own gaskets. It was a low density rubber material. That was several years back however
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In Florida, and I suspect the rest of the country, if it is there or was installed it must be operable or a rookie (or trooper) will write you a ticket. Most cops I know couldn't care less if one of those lights work or not.
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