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Old 07-15-2013, 09:13 PM   #1
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USED - Country Coach or Tiffin Phantom

We are on the search for a Phantom - 40' or 42' is the preference but based on pricing, it may be a 40.'

We are comparing the Tiffin Phantom to a Country Coach of equal years (2005 to 2007). Our trade-in - trading up from a 1999 Winney 37' 5" Adventurer (we originally bought new).

Several questions:
1. Quality - obvious concern
a. The Big Three concerns in the Phantom - is this prevalent in all years or only a few (which ones)
b. Any major items we should consider in the size and years we're seeking
2. Other than the obvious - Buy What looks and feels good to us - any suggestions/comparable we should consider
3. Please offer your "opinion" of quality similarities/differences between the Country Coach and Phantom.

Thanks for your assistance.
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First, you will play heck finding a "Phantom", there is no such thing.

I looked at Tiffin and bought Country Coach, not sorry at all.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:54 PM   #3
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First, you will play heck finding a "Phantom", there is no such thing..
We've looked at several and they are very nice.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:15 PM   #5
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phantoms or phaetons??
like Dons said cc.
higher quality materials
higher quality finish work
one of the best chassis out there
very solid coach all the way through
you won't be disappointed. ajmho
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[QUOTE=laj;1644137]phantoms or phaetons??


OK. Admittedly, my spelling sucks.

But the questions is:
1. Dollar for dollar, one over the other and why?
2. Tiffin is still in business so that has to count for something
3. Build quality - CC are very well built, but I am finding that year for year, size for size, Phaetons are definitely pricier than CC. Is that quality worth the price?
4. Etc.
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cc is still in business. Ron Lee, one of the original founders has bought all rights back and is doing full service work, and planning on starting new ones. Bob Lee, the other founder owns OMC, also does full service to them and there are many other service centers that use original cc employees. drive a cc then you will see why Dons chose cc. take a hard look at the wiring, plumbing, and other hidden things. just the way it's put together they are made to last a long time. yes, sometimes my spelling sucks too.
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cc is still in business. Ron Lee, one of the original founders has bought all rights back and is doing full service work, and planning on starting new ones. Bob Lee, the other founder owns OMC, also does full service to them and there are many other service centers that use original cc employees. drive a cc then you will see why Dons chose cc. take a hard look at the wiring, plumbing, and other hidden things. just the way it's put together they are made to last a long time. yes, sometimes my spelling sucks too.
OK. That makes sense. What about the chassis?

I've read several threads in regard to chassis and engines. One thing that I've not read (or not found yet) is in regard to size of diesel in regard to length/weight of coach. More is better? If all I'm towing is a full size pickup, that shouldn't matter. But I would like to "power up a hill.""!
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far as I'm concerned one of the best chassis out there. handles like a dream. depending what you are looking at 500 or more not a problem.
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Just for "kicks" you should also look at Newmars starting with the Dutch Star on the lower end and going up to Mountain Aire, Essex and King Aire.
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Just for "kicks" you should also look at Newmars starting with the Dutch Star on the lower end and going up to Mountain Aire, Essex and King Aire.
Ok. Obviously you have one so I would expect you to suggest that. But why? What qualities distinguishes it above a CC or Tiffin?

I'm working to get very educated prior to buying. Can't afford to make a mistake at this level. I'd never hear the end of it from my DW.
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CC was considered a bit pricy when we were looking but hindsight being perfect I should have bought it, less expensive in the long run.
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Start with the door. The Tiffin Phaeton when you go in your elbows will hit on both side of the door frame, with the Country Coach you can get the Sansung 197 through it if up remove the front seat.
CC side radiator, Tiffin Phaeton rear radiator.
The tiffin in the years you are looking at have a wet bay problem, front driverside slide leaks, and roof rail problems and most or all of these will have to be repaired in Red Bay, Al (road trip) with up to 6-8 week wait in there service lot. Go here and join, I did when I was looking for a Tiffin
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CC has there problems also but I think in quality it is a few up from Tiffin.
Then all have the same motors Cat or Cummins, I have the 400hp Cat lots of power and about 8.5mpg at 62mph and the ride is great
CC is open for business in Junction City.
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Well let's see, you get what you pay for. A Phaeton new costs around $300K plu or minus. A CC when new, depending on model, was MUCH higher. My Magna for example has a build sheet that shows $671K. If they are the same year, I would expect the CC to be higher priced. The fit and trim are far superior to the Phaeton. In fact the Tiffin Zepher might be close in quality to the lower end CC. And the Zepher starts at around $550K
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