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Old 04-20-2012, 11:42 AM   #57
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It isn't a question of understanding, it is more an issue of questioning why the status quo is in fact that the status quo. Even though the MCO is completed in a particular year, it is usually a jumble of components assembled from a variety of manufacturers and for most of which there is no particular importance attached to their year of manufacture. Compare that with say emissions standards which may change between years. The end result of something like that is you might end up buying a coach that doesn't meet a new standard (which is important to some) because you are really purchasing the previous years chassis and engine.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:00 PM   #58
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Its something we all have to live with even outside the RV world..

Even in autos, there is something called a 'mid year' were the vehicle was changed mid-way through the model year.. It may have been something small, or, like in my Audi's case, a complete face lift and new engine/tranny combo..

Heck, my '88 Ram Prospector Edition has a '74 4x4 steering pump and 4400lb front axle mixed with 3600lb spindles.. Having a mixed year vehicle is not unique..
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:24 AM   #59
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Doesn't the vin number (the number on the title and the one you give the insurance agent) determines the year of the vehicle? Doesn't it follow auto's
http://jalopnik.com/5165656/how-to-read-a-cars-vin
Rv's
http://www.class-c-motorhome-info-ma...in_number.html

These numbers are generated by the RV manufactuer.
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:05 PM   #60
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I don't care how you slice it, the year of the RV will in all likelihood be be determined from the VIN which is stamped all over the frame, engine, Ford stickers, etc... If I were buying the RV, and I wanted to know which year it was, I would ONLY follow the chassis VIN year. Just the way it is I guess. I fully understand how some RV's can be "current year" but built on a chassis 1 or 2 years old. I would still go by the VIN from the chassis. I suspect the insurance company and others would do the same.
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I don't care how you slice it, the year of the RV will in all likelihood be be determined from the VIN which is stamped all over the frame, engine, Ford stickers, etc... If I were buying the RV, and I wanted to know which year it was, I would ONLY follow the chassis VIN year. Just the way it is I guess. I fully understand how some RV's can be "current year" but built on a chassis 1 or 2 years old. I would still go by the VIN from the chassis. I suspect the insurance company and others would do the same.
Again, no.. The insurance will go by whats on the Title, and that is whats on the MCO..
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I don't care how you slice it, the year of the RV will in all likelihood be be determined from the VIN which is stamped all over the frame, engine, Ford stickers, etc... If I were buying the RV, and I wanted to know which year it was, I would ONLY follow the chassis VIN year. Just the way it is I guess. I fully understand how some RV's can be "current year" but built on a chassis 1 or 2 years old. I would still go by the VIN from the chassis. I suspect the insurance company and others would do the same.
You would be wrong. What you may be overlooking is that automakers build the whole car, and as you say, stamp the vin number on the frame visible thru the windshield, and a few other places. Start to finish, the process is a very short amount of time.

Motorhome manufacturers buy often chassis from one company (Spartan, Freightliner & others), and they may not be used for many months. It is not a completed vehicle until the RV manuf builds the "house" that goes on that chassis. When it is completed, they issue a Certificate of Origin, which is what my DMV wants to see, in order to title the vehicle here.

That is the way it should be done.
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Where is this VIN that the manufacturer creates from the MCO? When I bought my 2006, it had one VIN, the one from Ford. Not Thor, Ford. It is the VIN that has been used to register it, insure it, obtain parts for it, etc.. As I stated earlier, my VIN is the exact one that is on all of the Ford stickers, etc. So no, I do not think I am wrong. Perhaps there are different ways it is done.
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Where is this VIN that the manufacturer creates from the MCO? When I bought my 2006, it had one VIN, the one from Ford. Not Thor, Ford. It is the VIN that has been used to register it, insure it, obtain parts for it, etc.. As I stated earlier, my VIN is the exact one that is on all of the Ford stickers, etc. So no, I do not think I am wrong. Perhaps there are different ways it is done.
If your coach is a class B or C type motorhome the Vin number has been establshed by the chassis manufacturer, Generally it is located in the lower corner of the windshield on the drivers side. On class A's the chassis manufacturer assigns a serial number for the chassis for tracking purposes, and the RV manufactures establishes the vin number for the coach. The Vin number is on the mso when you buy an new coach. The state you register the coach in will take the mso and issue you a title.
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I will continue to beat this dead horse until I fully understand how it works.

My 2006 Class A RV has one VIN, it for all purposes appears to be a Ford VIN, it is the same VIN that is on the chassis stickers, etc. The VIN works on Ford Parts.com. So, how is it that Thor DID NOT create their own VIN but only used the Ford chassis VIN?
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Both of the RVs we have owned were based upon a chassis from the previous model year. The VIN was used by the DMV both in Georgia and Texas to register the vehicles, but the model year is set by the RV manufacturer.
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Last month I bought a 2011 Fleetwood Expedition on a Freightliner chassis. I was given two MCO's. The first from FL had N/A under the year and a note that year would be determined by the MH manufacturer. It did have a VIN. The MCO from Fleetwood had the model year (2011) and the same VIN assigned by FL. Fleetwood also assigns a FIN (Fleetwood Ident No). When I called with a question about a fuse I was asked for the FIN or the last 7 numbers of the VIN.

Not saying it is always that way, just seems to be the way it is done now.
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both of the rvs we have owned were based upon a chassis from the previous model year. The vin was used by the dmv both in georgia and texas to register the vehicles, but the model year is set by the rv manufacturer.
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I don't care how you slice it, the year of the RV will in all likelihood be be determined from the VIN which is stamped all over the frame, engine, Ford stickers, etc... If I were buying the RV, and I wanted to know which year it was, I would ONLY follow the chassis VIN year. Just the way it is I guess. I fully understand how some RV's can be "current year" but built on a chassis 1 or 2 years old. I would still go by the VIN from the chassis. I suspect the insurance company and others would do the same.
Wrong answer, here's the real answer:
Not by Federal Law, it must be registered according to the Manufacturers Certificate of Origin.
Here is the RVIA .pdf on it.
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If your coach is a class B or C type motorhome the Vin number has been establshed by the chassis manufacturer, Generally it is located in the lower corner of the windshield on the drivers side. On class A's the chassis manufacturer assigns a serial number for the chassis for tracking purposes, and the RV manufactures establishes the vin number for the coach. The Vin number is on the mso when you buy an new coach. The state you register the coach in will take the mso and issue you a title.
Nope, Type B and C MH's follow the same rules as a Type A MH. The chassis are purchsed as "incomplete vehicles", then the manufacturer completes the "box" and supplies the MCO that sets the year of manufacture.
By Federal Law, it must be registered according to the Manufacturers Certificate of Origin.
Here is the RVIA .pdf on it.
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