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Old 07-07-2010, 06:46 PM   #15
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The BEST Tiffin is the one I've been maintaining!!
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:21 PM   #16
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Prevost comes up at the top of several lists. The only problem is Prevost does not build motorhomes. Prevost builds bus shells that are converted to motorhomes by a number of third party manufacturers.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:43 AM   #18
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If someone asked who was the best ball player , some might say Joe Dimaggio, or Babe Ruth, G
If your using longevity as the barometer for the best...Then I guess Winnebago should be at the top of the list...But I'm bias...
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It'll be a few more years before Winnebago catches up with Conestoga. Good luck!!
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:21 AM   #20
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Quailty in an RV?

Lets face it. For what we pay for these things they are all junk. So just relax and enjoy
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:51 PM   #21
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This thread is getting just the type of response hoped for with general opinions using overall wide choices.

One interesting note is about Prevost only providing the shell. Another interesting thing is, not everyone would choose them as first on the list.

To relist and re-group by several criteria would take pages and maybe nobody would take the time to respond. If someone wants to take the time to list a hundred makes, models, etc and group by price, style, motor, size, etc..

What's interesting here is general concepts, general thoughts and feelings, etc. Overall general public opinion
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I was surprised not to see Tiffin on the list. I prefer to think of "value" instead of quality because of the wide range of prices involved.
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Tiifin is right in there on the initial top list. I would shop for a Tiffin anyday.
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Smile Define "Quality"

There are man different wways "quality" can be used.

If one designs a 1/4 20 fastener to be made out of lead, and be exactly 1.0278 inches long +-0.0005", and the manufacturer produces a million of them and less than 6 are not outside the 0.0005" tollerance they are meeting six sigma quality, but the fastener is a big POS because it is not strong enough to hold a rool of toilet paper.

What we do not know is there is a specific use for that fastener where it is the exact item needed to meet the engineer's requirements.

Others would insist that a grade 10 bolt was a higher quality because it was so much stronger, but it may not last as long as the plastic one in the acid environment it is installed into and none are even close to being the same length in the bin.

If we define quality in real terms, how many failures in a given number of units, or real cost per mile to operate including all maintenance and repairs then we have a starting point.

We also need to look at the engineering quality, did the manufacturer use the correct items in their design, if they used the steel bolt instead of the brass one the light may not fall off of the bumper, but the interface between the 2 causes a rust ring in the chrome bumper.

There are about a million other details when discussing this that can tangle us up, Prevost makes the shell, different folks finish the job, some may make modifications to the shel that makes it weak while others make modifications that improve it, while some may request special options to insure the shell is to their spec which may be good or bad.

Our 21 year old Country Coach seems to be mostly built of top of the line components for its day, but the speakers for the stereo have plastic heatsinks around the magnets implying they were of a higher performance than required, given these cannot be seen unless someone removes the speaker it is likely a better speaker sales rep that was able to convince the purchasing agent they were better.

Now let's have some fun, we are new and do not have much experience with MH, above is based on a life experience.

So, top 5 coaches based on what criteria?

Top 5 based on problems? (fewest)
Top 5 holds their age well. (many fall apart after a few years while others live a long life with proper care.
Top 5 based on "great ideas" (the things you wished you had though up)
Top 5 best design for quick deployment (those who just take a weekend trip on very short notice)
Top 5 best design or full timers (best design for living in)
top 5 to run away from?
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Well said TQ60... Dr W.E. Deming (who is widely credited with being the father of Japan's manufacturing turn around of the 1970s) defined quality as "conformance to requirements". An elegant definition IMHO.
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There are man different wways "quality" can be used.
Exactly.

"Quality" as used in these types of opinion rankings has a different meaning in every post making the entire thread just a listing of random thoughts/opinions/perceptions. Which, does have a certain value (though unrelated to "quality") as well.

With 2 black belts in Six-Sigma, I do have a little experience in actually measuring "quality."
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I remember years ago taking a quality class...

A nurse in the hospital baby delivery unit dropped only 1 baby in 100. Is that quality? She's pretty good at 99% of the time...

One person dies from 1 faulty tire in 10,000 (.1%) Is that quality?

A shear bolt designed to shear at 6,000 lbs holds out for an incredible 10,000 lbs. Is that quality even though it way outperformed the design specs? Well,,, of course not unless it was you hanging on at 20,000 feet in the air. You'd walk away thinking that was some bolt.
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I remember years ago taking a quality class..
Aahhh.. You learned well - better than you think. A measure (dropped babies, tire fatalities, shear) followed by a measurement (1 in 100, 1 in 10,000, psi).

With just those two tools (a measure and a measurement), NOW we can define and discuss what is "quality" for our purposes and then make meaningful comparisons!

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