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Old 09-12-2011, 11:53 PM   #1
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Smile What do you think about a 37 ft Harney coach works diesel pusher for 29 K with 32K mi

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I have put an offer on a Harney coach works renegade 1999 deisel pusher. I am worried as I have not seen alot about this motorhome on the internet and it appears the company has gone out of bussiness. I assume that after market parts could be ordered if needed. Does anyone have any thoughts, or suggestions? I need to be under 30 K for this first time rv buyer.

Thank you so much in advance.
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Our first coach was a 2000 Harney Renegade DP, the last year (I believe ) that they were in business. They used a proprietary chassis and (mine at least) had mechanical brakes. It took both feet standing on the brake to slow it down in a panic stop. NOT a good thing.

Run, do not walk away from this rig. We had nothing but problems with ours and dumped it a year later for a Newmar Kountry Star. Best move we ever made.

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Old 09-13-2011, 02:26 PM   #3
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Hello,

I have put an offer on a Harney coach works renegade 1999 deisel pusher. I am worried as I have not seen alot about this motorhome on the internet and it appears the company has gone out of bussiness. I assume that after market parts could be ordered if needed. Does anyone have any thoughts, or suggestions? I need to be under 30 K for this first time rv buyer.

Thank you so much in advance.
There is a good 'reason' it has such few miles.... RUN AWAY.
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I'm not familiar with this particular coach but

Best of luck !

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I remember them when they first appeared and their demise.

I'm with Doc. Pass on it.
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maybe at 1/2 of that price......

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Thank you all for your insight! Yes I think it is just to good to be true.... I really like the safari motorhomes, and have heard good things, maybe I will go for that!!
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Thank you all for your insight! Yes I think it is just to good to be true.... I really like the safari motorhomes, and have heard good things, maybe I will go for that!!
Safari's where good coaches, the older ones had rubber ride susp, and juice (fluid) brakes, and they 2 are no longer. Suspension parts are hard to find, as well as finding a shop with the ability to work on them. I might suggest looking on the Safari Forums before you purchase one. Safari like some of the other older coaches can be a challange to find parts and service for. Just like anything else it's not going to get any better as they get older especally since to company is no longer. Good hunting
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I agree with bbeane - Safari is another orphan (one of many from the downturn a few years ago). No parent, no corporate knowledge and MUCH harder to find parts.

My 2 cents? Stick with a brand that is still active, and respected.

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An older dp on a 30k budget, i'd also look for something from a mainstream manufacturer, fleetwood or winnebago I think.
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Harney DON'T BUY IT I OWN A 2000 HARNEY FROM THE 1ST. OWNER IT HAS BEEN TROUBLE

THE 1st owner had trouble from the start . I was lied to and have talk to other owner of this coach. if you want to email me sneice002@aol.com I will give you my phone # By an Allegro .
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Soo many older good coaches available, even at the price point your are shooting for. Do you have a need for heavy towing, and thus the DP looking? Recent thread on High End Gas vs Lower End DP (Or close to that heading.) Has many opinions on the virtues of both...

At that price point, you can get a bit newer and find more of a selection of gas coaches then only DP.

In that thread, before the OP repeated his Buy New approach to things, I suggested buying higher up the food chain in a DP, by dropping years to stay within budget.

With your price point, unless you really need a DP for some reason, I'd reverse this. Stay with a 99 F53 chassis or newer, or if a Work Horse, be sure the brake recall was done. Could even get a gas unit at that price point with one slide.

But, if it is to be a DP. Here are some examples of coaches. (I searched up to $35K, as asking price does not mean selling price!):

2001 Tiffin Motorhomes Alegro Diesel 35rb, Canoga Park - 111419434 - RVTrader.com


1999 Fleetwood Discovery 37v, Swansea MA - 111810453 - RVTrader.com


1999 Fleetwood Bounder 39z, Chico CA - 111427148 - RVTrader.com


1995 Fleetwood 36ft Diesel, tazewell TN - 111838266 - RVTrader.com



In general, shop Good Condition with DOCUMENTED RECORDS over miles. I'd rather have a well cared for 100K DP of a good quality builder, then a low miles with no or non complete documentation of care.

Note I included a higher quality Foretravel in this sampling. Sure, no slides, but Foretravel's are good coaches, and I would not be afraid of a well cared for (WITH DOCUMENTATION) older high quality coach.

Opinions will vary!

Take your time, and research what makes a good coach a good coach.

Also, welcome - and best of luck on your hunt!
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Harney Coach was founded by one of Matt Perolt's sons. Matt was the founder of Safari, that was bought by Monaco after Matt took Safari public (from a privately owned company). My memory is that a lot of the Harney design is the same as Safari. Of course, in addition to Harney, Safari is also an Orphan brand; first from the original company, then when produced by Monaco.

Not sure if Harney used an industry chassis like Freightliner (where parts may still be available), or if they used the proprietary Safari Magnum chassis of which parts might be harder to find.

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I have put an offer on a Harney coach works renegade 1999 deisel pusher. I am worried as I have not seen alot about this motorhome on the internet and it appears the company has gone out of bussiness. I assume that after market parts could be ordered if needed. Does anyone have any thoughts, or suggestions? I need to be under 30 K for this first time rv buyer.

Thank you so much in advance.
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Soo many older good coaches available, even at the price point your are shooting for. Do you have a need for heavy towing, and thus the DP looking? Recent thread on High End Gas vs Lower End DP (Or close to that heading.) Has many opinions on the virtues of both...

At that price point, you can get a bit newer and find more of a selection of gas coaches then only DP.

In that thread, before the OP repeated his Buy New approach to things, I suggested buying higher up the food chain in a DP, by dropping years to stay within budget.

With your price point, unless you really need a DP for some reason, I'd reverse this. Stay with a 99 F53 chassis or newer, or if a Work Horse, be sure the brake recall was done. Could even get a gas unit at that price point with one slide.

But, if it is to be a DP. Here are some examples of coaches. (I searched up to $35K, as asking price does not mean selling price!):

2001 Tiffin Motorhomes Alegro Diesel 35rb, Canoga Park - 111419434 - RVTrader.com


1999 Fleetwood Discovery 37v, Swansea MA - 111810453 - RVTrader.com


1999 Fleetwood Bounder 39z, Chico CA - 111427148 - RVTrader.com


1995 Fleetwood 36ft Diesel, tazewell TN - 111838266 - RVTrader.com



In general, shop Good Condition with DOCUMENTED RECORDS over miles. I'd rather have a well cared for 100K DP of a good quality builder, then a low miles with no or non complete documentation of care.

Note I included a higher quality Foretravel in this sampling. Sure, no slides, but Foretravel's are good coaches, and I would not be afraid of a well cared for (WITH DOCUMENTATION) older high quality coach.

Opinions will vary!

Take your time, and research what makes a good coach a good coach.

Also, welcome - and best of luck on your hunt!
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Good advice a lot of choices. The tiffin is a well known brand and you can call tiffin questions.
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