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Old 11-13-2014, 02:42 AM   #15
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:48 AM   #16
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I'll second the recommendation on visiting the Daniel Stern website. He has a lot of good information and opinions on vehicle lighting. It's not only the bulb brightness that needs attention, it's also the light/ beam pattern. Shoot him an e-mail with your issue, he's very responsive.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:53 AM   #17
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Lots of good advice and different options to look at here. Make sure that whatever lamp he uses, the fixtures are properly aimed. I had a Gulfstream gas coach and the lights were mounted low in the grill. I had to modify the mountings in order to get the beams adjusted to light the road. Also take a look at the riding attitude of the coach. If it rides lower in the rear when loaded or towing, the headlamps will be less effective and may need to be adjusted differently for that condition.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:06 PM   #18
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Then we have this thread going over in General Discussion: Does anyone else have trouble meeting those blue headlights?
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:51 PM   #19
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The OEM housings appear rather ´shitty' and there's only so much difference a good quality halogen bulb can make.

Make sure they get proper voltage and that the lenses are crystal clear.

Also, a good quality set of projector lamps installed on the lower part of the bumper with a good quality 4300k HID kit could be an effective solution.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:04 PM   #20
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Google hir bulbs. They will work with a very slight modification. They are legal and provide a lot more light.

http://store.candlepower.com/mohirbuba.html
Note: these are not the same as hid lights.
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Consumer Reports did some testing of the brighter bulbs. Their conclusion was that they did give more light, but they really couldn't see much, if any further.
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Old 11-14-2014, 09:56 AM   #22
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I am also going to suggest that he confirms he has a solid 12 volts at the bulb.

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Dan,

One of the threads mentioned is a thread I started. 12 volts is no good, you are looking for 12.8 - 13.2 volts.

Although HID lights are very popular, they are also illegal unless the vehicle came with them. That's why they are sold for offroad use only.

LED's are a viable option but can be expensive for a good set. As someone mentioned earlier relays will do the job, and are affordable.

If you or your son check voltage make sure you follow the steps provided on Daniel Sterns website. You must measure the voltage at the bulb with lights on. Measuring to the connector will do no good. Also read about how to check your voltage drop.

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Dan,

One of the threads mentioned is a thread I started. 12 volts is no good, you are looking for 12.8 - 13.2 volts.

Although HID lights are very popular, they are also illegal unless the vehicle came with them. That's why they are sold for offroad use only.

LED's are a viable option but can be expensive for a good set. As someone mentioned earlier relays will do the job, and are affordable.

If you or your son check voltage make sure you follow the steps provided on Daniel Sterns website. You must measure the voltage at the bulb with lights on. Measuring to the connector will do no good. Also read about how to check your voltage drop.

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Thanks Brian,
we are up to speed on how to confirm we have full battery voltage at the bulb terminals.
we also have been assuming that there is already a relay high current circuit.
Is it common for fleetwood to not h Ave a relay?

I have not heard back from my son yet on what he measured.

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We also have been assuming that there is already a relay since it's a high current circuit. Is it common for fleetwood to not have a relay?
(I obviously changed the quote a little - that's what you mean, right?)

It's not Fleetwood that installs most of the wiring. It's Ford. And no, they didn't use relays! In Brian's thread I mention that there are like 14 connections between power and the lights. It's quite inefficient.
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As a project to improve my Monaco lights, I did a complete overhaul. I contacted Daniel Stern and purchased his Philips bulbs, new ceramic sockets and relays. I also purchased the OEM lenses from GM, vs the aftermarket lenses used by the RV manufacturer.


I used the original wiring to trigger the relays with the larger wire, that was connected to the ceramic sockets which handle the higher heat of the properly powered headlights. If you understand how relays work, it's a pretty simple job.


Monaco uses a separate high and low beam bulb and only one can be used at a time. When I rewired the lights, with relays, I got the added benefit that both the high and low beam illuminated when the high beams were on.....really helped when in a dark campground or road.


My lighting experiment was expensive. I was happy with the results, but know that most won't spend the money to replace the poor quality lenses. I do recommend doing the relays, ceramic sockets and new bulbs. Probably under a $100.00 in materials.


If you contact Daniel Stern, he assemble the parts you need along with instructions for wiring the lights and relays.
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