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Old 06-13-2016, 10:39 PM   #29
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It is, but it's a better version, usually with more HP (Cat 350). I drive a 2000 f53 chassis. Me thinks the ride would be a significant improvement.
my journey had the 350 hp cat... 37 mph up a 6% grade

only went 2 mph faster than my 300 hp cummins in the excursion...

drive one a lot before you buy..I never knew there was a difference in the air ride on the better coaches....
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I watched ur video. Don't want a fight here, but my 15 year old V-10 with a 4 spd tranny pulls a 6% grade with a 4500 lb trailer around 4000 RPM and 44 MPH. Something wasn't right with that Journey.
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I watched ur video. Don't want a fight here, but my 15 year old V-10 with a 4 spd tranny pulls a 6% grade with a 4500 lb trailer around 4000 RPM and 44 MPH. Something wasn't right with that Journey.
that's all they do..it ran perfect...just no torque...660 I think..and my alpine has 1200... my alpine runs with the traffic from stop lights
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I watched ur video. Don't want a fight here, but my 15 year old V-10 with a 4 spd tranny pulls a 6% grade with a 4500 lb trailer around 4000 RPM and 44 MPH. Something wasn't right with that Journey.
I had a 2000 f53... they come to life with a banks kit... and just changing the "Y" pipe is a big improvement... those only have 300 hp
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Mine has good power not great but the ride is great (with new shocks and front) sway bar. Tows 10,000lb. There are a few 16 still out there 110k off sticker.
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looked at a few of those...all were older or same age with more miles...

how would you rate the 2 , alpine seems to be very well built and rides very well.. don't think it would worth the trade in to go side ways..

thanks for posting... never knew they made a 34'r

Have never been in or around an Alpine so its hard to comment in any manner other than to speculate based on the manufactures specs.

Spec wise the Foretravels have a bit more going for them (8 airbag chassis, retarder, HWH leveling with airbags not jacks, likley a bit more storage based on chassis construction, larger tank capacity, etc)

Power wise a stock U280 with the C series would be behind the L powered Alpine on the hills...

Moving to a 36' U320 with the M11/ISM would be an upgrade but probably not worth the switch if you are limited to the 34'
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Have never been in or around an Alpine so its hard to comment in any manner other than to speculate based on the manufactures specs.

Spec wise the Foretravels have a bit more going for them (8 airbag chassis, retarder, HWH leveling with airbags not jacks, likley a bit more storage based on chassis construction, larger tank capacity, etc)

Power wise a stock U280 with the C series would be behind the L powered Alpine on the hills...

Moving to a 36' U320 with the M11/ISM would be an upgrade but probably not worth the switch if you are limited to the 34'
http://www.alpinecoachassociation.co...hures/2004.pdf
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