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Old 04-09-2013, 01:57 PM   #1
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Question When CCC seems too low

I was hoping to bounce this against the collective intelligence of this forum.

We were interested in a 2008 Newmar that's literally got every bell and whistle you could imagine. But maybe it's too "guilded" for it's own good?

I got a printout from Newmar from when they first built it (it's birth certificate, unique to this model), and I was when the CCC (Cargo Carrying Capacity ~ what you can "bring aboard" weight wise) came in at 2,131! (That includes deducting 1,333 lbs for a full water tank) This is a 45' coach on a K3 chassis!

Weirder yet, is that the towing limit (and this thing has a 15k hitch) is listed as a "-51,561" as the CCC for the trailer.

Am I missing something, or are these numbers insanely low?

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Old 04-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #2
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Hi MarkofSJC,
What is the year, model (Essex?) and floor plan (4 digit number).
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It's a 2008 London Aire (yes, one of a handful produced). The floor plan is a 4545.
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YEP...LOTS OF OPTIONS!

The base NCC for the 45' models is 6500# up to 7000#. If it is all electric that adds a ton of weight just for additional batteries. I don't know the deal on the towing numbers but according to the Newmar brochure there is 15K# available to tow when at GVWR.

It would be interesting to see the build sheet for that one.
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Is there a way I can attach it? It's actually very interesting to read.
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It's a 2008 London Aire (yes, one of a handful produced). The floor plan is a 4545.
OH...that is different because there aren't many options for the LADB. HOWEVER...160 gal of water would really take up some weight still...rough figures are:

GVWR = 54,000
UVW - 48,000
NCC = 6,000
Full H20 = 1,992
2 people @ 140# = 280
CCC = 3728

The options that I can see with a major negative impact are the Granite countertops, floor tile and shower walls. If they did that, I doubt they opted for the carpeted living room area to offset it at all. LOL
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Is there a way I can attach it? It's actually very interesting to read.
If you can scan it to PDF or JPEG it can be attached.
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I already have it as a .pdf. I've got it sitting on the desktop of this computer...but not seeing a way to attach.

Ah! Advanced! Got it!

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Here it is (I hope)
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File Type: pdf 2008 London Aire Build Certif.pdf (142.7 KB, 93 views)
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Yep...Granite is heavy. LOL

Do you have a copy of the weight sheet? I normally have found those on the inside of one of the kitchen cabinets. I was wondering if it would have your corner weights.
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I thought that was listed on the same sheet as well....Right Front 9910, Left Front 8745, etc.
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This one has the galley on the curb side, so the reading makes sense to me.
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I thought that was listed on the same sheet as well....Right Front 9910, Left Front 8745, etc.
DOOH! Should have scrolled a bit more.
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LOL ~ if that's the worst "DOOH!" I have all day, I'm doing pretty well!
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