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Old 06-01-2014, 01:24 PM   #1
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Where did they get these headlights?

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Despite my best efforts to avoid driving at night, sometimes the situation demands it. The headlights on my 2005 Holiday Rambler Navigator has been resurfaced and the DOT markings are gone.



I have already replaced the bulbs with SilverStar Ultra bulbs (SilverStar® ULTRA) and it doesn't help much. That said, it did help the high-beams and they are more than acceptable now, but who gets to use those much? I checked the voltage at the headlights and have 13.4 volts with the engine running and the lights on. The voltage doesn't drop on high beams. That said, I don't thing I have a low voltage issue.



I really think my problem is that someone has refinished the covers poorly and even now that they are clear, the light diffusion may be off. That said, I really don't know what I am talking about...... :-) I did have a shop check them and they said that its not a headlight alignment issue and suspect my guess about the resurfacing may be correct. They commented about the significant grinding that had been done on the covers and that it would not take much to break them.



I can find a new pair of the original type lights on eBay, but I would like to find out where HR got the original lights so I can research my options with newer light technology. I emailed the guy with the lights and he will not send me the numbers off of them. Bugger....



Any help is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for readying this.



With greatest respect;

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Navigator headlights```

Got a couple of pictures to get us started. I have an 06 Scepter. They may be the same but no see = no answer
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Dear Friends:



Despite my best efforts to avoid driving at night, sometimes the situation demands it. The headlights on my 2005 Holiday Rambler Navigator has been resurfaced and the DOT markings are gone.



I have already replaced the bulbs with SilverStar Ultra bulbs (SilverStar® ULTRA) and it doesn't help much. That said, it did help the high-beams and they are more than acceptable now, but who gets to use those much? I checked the voltage at the headlights and have 13.4 volts with the engine running and the lights on. The voltage doesn't drop on high beams. That said, I don't thing I have a low voltage issue.



I really think my problem is that someone has refinished the covers poorly and even now that they are clear, the light diffusion may be off. That said, I really don't know what I am talking about...... :-) I did have a shop check them and they said that its not a headlight alignment issue and suspect my guess about the resurfacing may be correct. They commented about the significant grinding that had been done on the covers and that it would not take much to break them.



I can find a new pair of the original type lights on eBay, but I would like to find out where HR got the original lights so I can research my options with newer light technology. I emailed the guy with the lights and he will not send me the numbers off of them. Bugger....



Any help is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for readying this.



With greatest respect;

Leo
Photos would really help. Our 2005 Windsor uses 2000 Lincoln Navigator headlights which are about $300 at Ford.
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I had a 2001 Allegro with a similar problem. My wife called the factory and talked to a nice fellow that happen to be the headlight installer in 01. He told her what they came out of. They are if I remember from a GMC pickup that fit from 92-05. Also fit Suburbans and a couple others. New they cost $79. On ebay I got them for $15 for brand new ones in the box. Also replaced the blinker fixtures at the same time. Got them for $6. So you are probably looking at something similar. Should be a common light used in cars or trucks over several years. Good price and availability for the MH company. My 05 Fleetwood has good lights so I don't have to do that again. The brand name and part number was molded right into the housing. Check out pickup lights in that year or right before.
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Just a thought, but maybe try and find another like year HR and check the headlights for the numbers.
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Thanks for the replies friends. Here is what it looks like. I have been looking for another HR Navigator so I could check out the number, but no luck so far.

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Ask your question in the Monaco Owners Forum. You will get more responses from HR Navigator owners. Your picture looks identical to my 2005 Panther ( very similar to Navigator) headlights although a lot of headlights look the same. The TYC numbers for mine are 20-5859R (passenger) and 20-5860 (Drivers). From what I google they are from a 00-02 Linclon LS.
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Google the part numbers right from the front of the lens.
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If your headlights take 9005 and 9006 bulbs, you can get hir bulbs that just need a slight modification to fit and should improve things quite a bit.
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Lincoln LS as mentioned in this thread. Twice.
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Last week I ordered new housings for my 99 Winnebago Chieftain. The cheapest I could find was $85 for a "99 Winnebago Chieftain"; and that was just a single housing. Thanks to this forum I found out that manufacturers use existing vehicle headlights so I went hunting and found that my headlights came from a 97 Ford Windstar. I got all 4 housings (headlight and side marker) for $83 from Rock Auto.
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OK, now that I have seen a picture I will tell you that they look very similar to my 06 HR Scepter headlamps. Mine are sourced from an early 2000's BMW Series 5 automobile. If they are the same they are $$$. If they are the same they are also available aftermarket. Let us(me) know what your final solution is, as I will be needing something in the future. I believe they are a sealed unit so if the plastic is fogged it may be both the inside as well as the outside. Good luck and keep us informed please. Maybe in the Monaco forum.
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Lincoln LS as mentioned in this thread. Twice.

Thanks Tim and all.

Now I feel really dumb, I don't know how to search the forum right.

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Another thing to take into account, is the driver height on a motorhome compared to a passenger vehicle. On low beam you are looking at a downward angle to the lit area compared to looking more straight through the lighted area on a lower vehicle. As your brights (shine much farther) are good, this may be part of the issue.
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