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Old 02-26-2015, 10:42 AM   #15
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:50 AM   #16
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Who has the most power... I've been checking and it seems that those that have big power, have big weight to go with it...

That is the basis. They power them for the weight.
I'm happy with what I have, but I don't race anymore.
You can chip em, "Bank" em or whatever, but I'll still meet you at the next light in town, or a few minutes later at the CG.
Perhaps the rigs need a testosterone boost to the fuel rail?
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:31 AM   #17
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That is the basis. They power them for the weight.
I'm happy with what I have, but I don't race anymore.
You can chip em, "Bank" em or whatever, but I'll still meet you at the next light in town, or a few minutes later at the CG.
Perhaps the rigs need a testosterone boost to the fuel rail?
for me I'm sure it will change,.. but the shock for going from a gas coach to a pusher with no power gonna take some time... going up the same hill 15 mph slower is tough to take..

that and that big ol fuel pedal that does nothing when you press it but make a MOO sound

some of these fellas have real stump pull'n power....jealous... yep
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I'll stay with my engine, I like the mileage better than the zoom. Getting there fast is not in my plans. 350HP, 31,000GVW.
The new 45' Foretravel has 650 HP, 50,000 GVW.
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Years ago there was a quick formula for looking at a coach and determining if it had enough power. It was 1 HP per 100 pounds. So a 30K coach should have a 300 HP engine to be adequate. I think those numbers are probably a little underpowered in this day and age.
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I'll stay with my girl she has a 300Hp Turbo V8 3208 T/A engine with the Allison 4 speed w/retarder, the rig is 37' weighing at a full load @ 42,432 lbs and she can climb hills with no problems with trailer a in tow. Like the one gentleman said we'll get there in due time and meet you at the park. Did I forget to tell you she carries 150 gal of fuel, 100 gal fresh water, 50 gal waste and 214 lbs of butane. at 55 to 65 she gets 10 mi/gal
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Who has the most power... I've been checking and it seems that those that have big power, have big weight......:

Oh God, another iteration of the testosterone wars!! My xxx is bigger than your xxx!

Dutch Star Don is right-- for years the basic design adequacy rule of thumb has been 100lbs per HP. Slightly below and you enjoy some performance advantage; slightly above and you lag climbing long grades. But I disagree with him that this number is outdated. The laws of physics don't change, only the marketing campaign does. When people have money to spend you can sell almost anything.

You cannot make an absolute statement because it is truly the combination of HP and torque that determines the most advantageous performance in a MH or any other large, heavy vehicle. That is why a DP will usually outperform a similarly loaded gasser in terms of hill climbing and load bearing-- because the diesel will give you far greater torque. But all forces must be more or less in balance, lest you wind up with a vehicle that will do one thing very well, and the rest with mediocrity. Like the high school gearhead's fantasy- the VW with a 454-- unbalanced designs are soon left behind.
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Oh God, another iteration of the testosterone wars!! My xxx is bigger than your xxx!

Dutch Star Don is right-- for years the basic design adequacy rule of thumb has been 100lbs per HP. Slightly below and you enjoy some performance advantage; slightly above and you lag climbing long grades. But I disagree with him that this number is outdated. The laws of physics don't change, only the marketing campaign does. When people have money to spend you can sell almost anything.

You cannot make an absolute statement because it is truly the combination of HP and torque that determines the most advantageous performance in a MH or any other large, heavy vehicle. That is why a DP will usually outperform a similarly loaded gasser in terms of hill climbing and load bearing-- because the diesel will give you far greater torque. But all forces must be more or less in balance, lest you wind up with a vehicle that will do one thing very well, and the rest with mediocrity. Like the high school gearhead's fantasy- the VW with a 454-- unbalanced designs are soon left behind.
thanks for the post...

what you are say'n doesn't make sense .."That is why a DP will usually outperform a similarly loaded gasser in terms of hill climbing and load bearing-- because the diesel will give you far greater torque.

gas torque is less than diesel torque...
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heres how you see what pulls the most.... hook up to the same trailer

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A DP and gas MH with identical weight and identical HP will climb a hill at exactly the same speed as long as the weight/HP/speed is the same. That is simple physics.
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A DP and gas MH with identical weight and identical HP will climb a hill at exactly the same speed as long as the weight/HP/speed is the same. That is simple physics.
thank you!!!


let go alittle farther,,,

which makes more power a 6.8 gas

or a 6.7 diesel

forget what it's hooked to, on the dyno
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Good video and Article!

Here's an interesting website on Diesel vs. gas. Funny enough the diesel is a 2015 Excursion 33D (pretty much identical to yours). I was very disappointed after reading the article and watching the video-I was expecting a drag race up a 20-mile long, 6% grade!!

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The ford 6.7 diesel is a twin turbo and only has 400hp in 2014 and before. The cummins has 385.
The ford 6.8 gas has 362. That is comparing turbocharged engine to a non turbo engine. If you five star tune the gas add about 50hp total.
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