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Old 02-27-2015, 10:41 AM   #57
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another question,,, and the answer should be directed to the coach builders

how many would pick the one with the sleeper sofa over the one with the bigger power??

and how many would like to see more power in the shorter motor homes..

I have no desire to own a 44' tag axel coach..
I could lay out a very comfortable 30'r

if I want to have it all when I get there, i'll rent a condo...
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:16 AM   #58
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torque gets you up the hill hp gets you there quicker..

but all things equal.... both have the same weight per hp and torque
they would be the same...

were the constant argument is one having more torque vs one having more hp and the one having more hp having way less weight


no pay load is different


I hooked the same trailer to these motorhomes of mine

2012 30' winnabago vista v10 w/ banks and gearvendor overdrive 10 sp trans.
2013 allegro 30' v10 with banks

2013 26' winnabago vista v10 w/ banks and w/and wo 22.5 tires

2015 forest river FR3 30' v10

2o15 winnabago tribute v10 w/ and with out banks

2005 winnabago journey DP cat 350hp/850 torque

2014 Fleetwood excursion cummins 300/660torque

they all pulled the same 8k trailer loaded the same...

the fastest up the hill was the 30' v10 with 10 speed trans...

the slowest was the Fleetwood excursion followed by the journey

the two diesels being slowest by 15 mph...

now I personaly tested everone of these and got my own result ..

didn't read it...

so the thing is, I would like to get back to where I started speed wise... but, looks like it will never happen.... people keep drinking the Kool-Aid and making statement like .. get a diesel if you wanna go up the hill faster..

then on another thread say'n I don't care if I'm the slowest up the hill
ii aint in no hurry!!

pretty sure if I had the doe to spend I could go to one the more custom builders and say

here the chassis I want build me a 32' home on it...and yes I'd pick a diesel for the power... just put enough to make it work...

the excursion does fine,, not so loaded to 30,000... needs more power..

through the years ive sold off and moved away from my fast stuff

no more achol dragster, no more twin turbo schiada's no more turbo sand rails, no built banchees, no more 165 mph custom Harley....
down to a turbo'd motorhome (excursion) and a couple riding mowers (Polaris xp 1000"s)

Yes but no gas engine will ever make the same torque to hp ratio as a diesel
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Yes but no gas engine will ever make the same torque to hp ratio as a diesel
correct, that why they put them in tractors
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Who has the most hp.. And torque

You probly won't get your dream rig unless you get a custom Monarch Coach.
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You probly won't get your dream rig unless you get a custom Monarch Coach.
probley just get used to this one, but nice to let other know,,,

soon as you order it.. cost more
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correct, that why they put them in tractors
You cannnot buy a farm tractor with a gasoline engine today. I've been searching for one. Two different farm implement/tractor dealerships have told me 2008 was the last year a gasoline engine was available in a farm tractor, something about EPA regulations.
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correct, that why they put them in tractors

And why they put them in motor homes
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And why they put them in motor homes
we love our pusher ... only weighs 22,600 loaded with 300hp/660tq

runs like a mouse in slippers my wife really loves it,... so game over..

I'm close to the same power per pound as most everyone else, so it is was it is and is what I can get

we're running it to needles ca. for the boat show..gonna have fun
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My coach with the ISB 340/660 ft lbs torque seems to have similar overall performance to my previous gas coach with a 454. Only difference is that it appears (maybe because the engine is in the back rather than under /in front of me) that the ISB does it with a bit more finesse. With this smaller engine propelling a 31000 lb coach (as opposed to 16000 on the gasser), my opinion is that it is still under powered, especially from a dead stop. The less-than-expected fuel economy of about 7 mpg average is less than the gasser at an avg of 7.5. Perhaps a larger engine would not have to work so hard and fuel economy might be better?

My stats would be: 91 lbs /hp and 47 lbs/ 1 ft lb torque
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