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Old 07-22-2014, 09:40 AM   #15
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I haven't been inside ANY motor-home that has both safety belt seating for eight and sleeping arrangements for eight.

I am sure they are out there someplace but in most cases modifications would be necessary to ensure that eight people could travel safely, legally and have a restful sleep.

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Old 07-22-2014, 09:44 AM   #16
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Yes, an aqua-hot would be a nice upgrade. I finally got tired of cold showers at my house and got rid of our water heater and put in a Noritz tankless water heater. My teenagers can't run out my hot water tank anymore :-)
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:46 AM   #17
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If you have four seat belts on the dinette, two or three on the couch, and the two drivers you can safely drive with eight people. I am learning that RV seatbelts aren't always screwed into anything solid though. Have to watch what they are connected to.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:49 AM   #18
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Take a look at Newmar's line. They will custom most anything for you. You can also make many changes/additions from their build spec form. Their gas models are the Bay Star & Canyon Star. Solid company with outstanding customer service.


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Old 07-22-2014, 09:52 AM   #19
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Motor home decor was designed by "younger" people trying to come up with something they thought "older" people would like.

They missed the mark entirely.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:53 AM   #20
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Jim, we love the Newmars but they don't install the drop-down bunks above the cab area. So we have ruled them out. Much nicer to be able to use that cab space for a sleeping area.
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:30 AM   #21
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"...looks like grandma's house". That is a great description! One of the reasons I purchased new was to get away from that look. I agree with the comment "...designed by younger people trying to come up with something they thought older people would like". This is the way it has always been since I have been RV shopping. I just read somewhere that the mean RV owner age is 34-54, so it just goes to show you that the RV manufactures are not paying attention.
Whenever you have an opportunity to tell someone at the factory, let them know your feelings. I have done that many times and I always get a strange look from them.
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It is not only the interior decor that is an assault on good taste. Looking at most modern class As driving past is a rather vomitous experience as manufacturers vie for the dubious distinction of having the most swirls in the most colours.
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Nothing new I'm afraid. My original 1985 B had dark pink curtains, shades and trim. Replaced them all with a nice charcoal/brown combo. Much more guy like.
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they keep making them.. and we keep buying them..

I've just settled on the fact that it might be better to buy something a little older and renovate the inside with the saved dough.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:20 AM   #25
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It is not only the interior decor that is an assault on good taste. Looking at most modern class As driving past is a rather vomitous experience as manufacturers vie for the dubious distinction of having the most swirls in the most colours.
I just assumed no one could draw a straight line ... for whatever reason
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:39 AM   #26
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My rv has belts for 7 and sleeps 9. The dinette only has belts on the forward facing seats but I imagine ones could be installed on the other side so you would have 9 belted seats.

We just spent eight days up in Canada and were comfy and not over crowded. There were two adults and three teenage boys.
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Some of it is to justify the high sticker price - all the millwork and fancy wood cabinetry. Fabric or leather choices don't sway the cost much - they are usually just pandering to their demographic. Many folks equate this wood-work to the overall quality of the coach. The reality is it's just window dressing.

I hate the whole look like a tree exploded inside the RV. Especially the over-the-top traditional dark wood interiors.

If you want contemporary these days, you really have two choices - go up-market to the totally custom rig like a Prevost, etc, or go downmarket to the B's and small C's that are similar to what you'll find in Europe. Those sizes tend to keep to their European roots as far as the cabinetry and appointments go.

If you poke around on the youtubes though, if you go back a couple years, you'll see some pretty wild upholstery styles on some of these rigs in Europe. I guess there are changes in fashion everywhere, not just among old ladies here in the States.
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Jim, we love the Newmars but they don't install the drop-down bunks above the cab area. So we have ruled them out. Much nicer to be able to use that cab space for a sleeping area.

There should be cabinet shops in or near Nappanee that would do a drop down bunk for you. Have you asked Newmar if they would do one for you? I'm always surprised what they are willing to do to accommodate their customers.


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