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Old 10-18-2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Why small windows?

We are shopping for our first big coach, a used 40 footer.

It seems most all of the ones we see have rather small windows
in relation to the surface area.

Why is that?


We want to be able to look out and enjoy where we park.


I wouldn't imagine the extra cost of heating and cooling would
be that much.
Am I wrong?
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:23 AM   #2
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Check Monaco and Safari lines. They have always had big windows. You are right it does make a difference. With awnings and solar screens you can still enjoy the view and beat the heat when necessary.

Keep looking, it's out there...
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:25 AM   #3
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If you don't like it, don't buy it! You have the right to replace as many side windows as you want, which cracked due to the forces forced upon them.

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Old 10-18-2012, 11:22 AM   #4
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Models aimed at full time use reduce window size improve insulation values. We have big windows but to be honest, they don't help when driving down the road because I am using the big one in front of me. LOL

I can't quantify the difference in energy costs because those costs can wildly very. You don't have the insulation capabilities of a S&B house so any difference is significant.

To be honest, If it is so nice outside, I would much rather be outside of the MH getting a REALLY BIG view instead of the restricted view of any size window.

I would also suggest that smaller windows help a bit in structural integrity.

All that being said, if you are only looking be a part timer, maybe this isn't a big deal for you. We just don't find big windows to be something that is needed.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:37 PM   #5
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It is a 2 part deal. Heat is one factor...now that more and more companies are making dark colored, full body paint standard, they have to do what they can to reduce how much heat is let in. Even pricey dual pane windows and added insulation won't completely stop the heat.

The 2nd factor (and the main one): Cost. Those dual pane windows aren't cheap to manufacture, and large windows take away from structural integrity of the sidewall. Everywhere there's a window, there's added bracing in the substructure to keep things strong. So what do coach builders do to keep things strong while minimizing cost?? Use smaller windows, which therefore take less time to manufacture, and use less materials.

Those coach companies will tell you it's merely a design choice, as large windows take away from the lines and graphics of the coach :P
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:40 PM   #6
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If you want really big windows, look for an older Prevost. They have the biggest. I think the next best for window size at much more reasonable price is Alpha See Ya.
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I would like larger ones as well. The hallway has floor length ones but that doesn't help much. One requirement was NO televisions up front hanging down. The full unobstructed view out front is incredible. No windshield wipers, center dividers, or excessive hanging cabinets.
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If you don't like it, don't buy it! You have the right to replace as many side windows as you want, which cracked due to the forces forced upon them.

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So Ed, I take it you know something about broken windows.

Do you think they may be more prone to breakage if
they are larger?
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Everywhere there's a window, there's added bracing in the substructure to keep things strong. So what do coach builders do to keep things strong while minimizing cost?? Use smaller windows, which therefore take less time to manufacture, and use less materials.
Unless you have the laminated wall structure, usually the window openings have no extra bracing the the windows screw directly into or through the sidewall.
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If you want realy big windows get an old clasic GMC
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:19 AM   #11
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If you want realy big windows get an old clasic GMC

Kinda funny you mentioned that. We already have a old GMC ('77 Palm Beach)

Ours is the same model and color as the one used in the movie 'Stripes'


Great coach but not enough storage, inside or out.

Gets lots of looks though.


I guess its big windows have really spoiled us!
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Unless you have the laminated wall structure, usually the window openings have no extra bracing the the windows screw directly into or through the sidewall.


Looking at a 2006 Monaco Camelot PAQ ($145k) as well as a 2006 Winnebago Vectra ($119K)

Do you think either have the laminated wall structure?

Both seem to have large that standard windows that we like.

Which would you choose and why?

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