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09-02-2014, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Droberts9747
Wow thanks you guys great information I had no idea that I tag was so important my coaches only 24,000 pounds so it's not a big deal for me but if I ever get a newer bigger one I'll definitely look into it thank you again
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FWIW, I had a 36' Pace Arrow Vision that had a tag axle. It had a rubber type spring. The handling on the road was far better than our previous 34' single axle coach. Cross winds had less effect and semis passing had little impact on control. That third axle stabilizes any size of motorhome and results in a more relaxed ride. We will never go back to a non tag coach.
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09-03-2014, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Crasher
FWIW, I had a 36' Pace Arrow Vision that had a tag axle. It had a rubber type spring. The handling on the road was far better than our previous 34' single axle coach. Cross winds had less effect and semis passing had little impact on control. That third axle stabilizes any size of motorhome and results in a more relaxed ride. We will never go back to a non tag coach.
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we do need to be careful, to much demand will make my next tag axle coach too expensive, lol, Ill never go back either
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09-03-2014, 07:26 AM
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It seems that Tag axels are hard to find. Even at 40 ft.
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09-03-2014, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Droberts9747
It seems that Tag axels are hard to find. Even at 40 ft.
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Not at all. A 40 ft coach with tag is unusual.....generally tag coaches are longer than 40ft.
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09-03-2014, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pasdad1
Not at all. A 40 ft coach with tag is unusual.....generally tag coaches are longer than 40ft.
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Years ago, a number of manufacturers put tag axles on shorter coaches, but more recently it became more standardized as you say. But then coaches started betting heavier, and some 40-footers were overweight when nearly empty, and the DEF system added to the problem. Newmar, at least, started putting tags on 40-footers the last couple of years.
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09-03-2014, 08:59 AM
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I have the 2002 Windsor (non tag) 40 foot.
I like have the "two full through" slide storage compartments.
I have been debating the 42 foot with a tag.
I doubt I would be increasing the weight of cargo enough
to offset the loss of the extra storage.
I have not driven a 10 air bag over the same road as my 8 bag
so I cannot say how much of a better ride I would get.
The added cost of extra brakes, tires is also a factor.
The big reason I am looking at a tag is the ability to carry
a touring motorcycle on the back and also tow the CRV.
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09-03-2014, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_D
Monaco used a lifting tag axle on some of their 2008-2009 units, they don't steer however. Or at least that's what the owners manuals state. We've never owned one but have been looking at them closely right now.
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Monaco used a lifting tag much further back. We full time in an '03 Signature and the tag lifts. I think Dynasty and up had this tag.
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09-03-2014, 09:15 AM
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The Tag is actually for all the Bling..Marble, Tile, solid Oak ceilings etc, yes extra cargo too, I have to question the stability issue though .....
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09-03-2014, 02:31 PM
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There's a lot of stuff about weight in this string. So I was just at a Loves truck stop and they had truck scales there. I didn't see any place where I would be able tell you what the weight was, it said something about going inside or sending something to the state police or weight police?
Is that he kind of scale to use to find out the weight distribution?
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09-03-2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
The Tag is actually for all the Bling..Marble, Tile, solid Oak ceilings etc, yes extra cargo too, I have to question the stability issue though .....
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just drive the coach even at low speed with the tags up, you will see the difference and it is huge
Moxy
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09-03-2014, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Droberts9747
There's a lot of stuff about weight in this string. So I was just at a Loves truck stop and they had truck scales there. I didn't see any place where I would be able tell you what the weight was, it said something about going inside or sending something to the state police or weight police?
Is that he kind of scale to use to find out the weight distribution?
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The only correct way to know what you have is to get your coach weighed on individual scales. Six scales for a tag coach and four for a non tag. You can weigh on a Loves scale and have each axle on a different platform. Go inside for a printout of the results. That will give you the weight distribution per axle but not per wheel location.
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09-03-2014, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pasdad1
Not at all. A 40 ft coach with tag is unusual.....generally tag coaches are longer than 40ft.
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Our 2003 40' Foretravel has a lifting tag.
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09-04-2014, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Moxy
just drive the coach even at low speed with the tags up, you will see the difference and it is huge
Moxy
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Of course the Coach was designed for the tag to be down, now you have over loaded the main rear axle.....
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09-04-2014, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
The Tag is actually for all the Bling..Marble, Tile, solid Oak ceilings etc, yes extra cargo too, I have to question the stability issue though .....
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If you have to question the stability of a tag coach, you obviously have never driven one. My previous 40' non tag coach had tile floors, oak cabinets, solid counters, all the Bling and was not overloaded on either axle. Our current coach has the same, is 4' longer and has a tag. Same company, but no comparison in ride and handling. After you drive a fully equipped and loaded tag coach for a day, you won't question the stability anymore.
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