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Old 10-11-2016, 11:51 AM   #29
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Boy I don't know $32.00 for propane for a month and a 1/2 isn't too bad. I use it for cooking also. Using the camps electric to run a spare heater is just wrong. Then I wonder why are campgrounds prices going up.
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I don't get this. If i pay for 30 amp service, then shouldn't i be able to use up to that 30 amps?

We too use a 1500 watt space heater, UL listed with tip over protection, on those cold nights. But i rarely run it on high. On our smaller coach, the 900 watt setting works fine. The propane furnace assists when it's really cold outside.
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Old 10-11-2016, 01:13 PM   #30
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I stayed in Pleasant Lake CG, here in NY, back in May.

The brochure and recipt both stated that no electric heaters be used. If discovered, you would be asked to leave.

The power was metered and AC was not mentioned. My best guess was a fire hazard.
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I stayed in Pleasant Lake CG, here in NY, back in May.

The brochure and receipt both stated that no electric heaters be used. If discovered, you would be asked to leave.

The power was metered and AC was not mentioned. My best guess was a fire hazard.
My guess is they're cheap. Portable propane heaters are equally hazardous, if not more. It's also possible that their wiring is inadequate.

In my experience, a lot of independent campgrounds, particularly family-owned, operate on somewhat folksy business models. Low costs are often their main goal.
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Good Point,
I use the genie for AC rarely use it, too Loud, and its about the only time I get to use the Genie. While sno-birding we pay the electric per month $20-30
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You can arrange your heat just about any way you want. We like to be comfortable. For us that means about 70*. I know folks whose standard winter regimen is to set the Thermo at 55* and wear lots of sweaters, night and day. Not for me.

Whether you're going for the so-called free electricity or not there are a couple of things you have to remember: 1) if your outside temp goes below 38-40 degrees the heat pumps will lose efficiency rapidly. In many MHs the HVAC system will auto magically cut out the heat pumps below a certain point; and, 2) if your temps are solidly cold- like low 20s or below- stuff in your water bay will start to freeze. Your propane furnace is the only thing that will feed warm air into the water bay. Heat pumps won't hack it. If you really love to squeeze as many nickels worth of "free electricity" as possible out of those greedy campground owners, you could put a 100W bulb in the bay on an extension cord. That might help. Go for it.


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Your propane furnace is the only thing that will feed warm air into the water bay.
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I use an electric space heater in the area of the water bay controlled by a Themo-Cube, (which turms it ON at 35 degrees Fahrenheit, OFF at 45 degrees Fahrenheit): https://www.walmart.com/ip/21154717?...&wl13=&veh=sem
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You can arrange your heat just about any way you want. We like to be comfortable. For us that means about 70*. I know folks whose standard winter regimen is to set the Thermo at 55* and wear lots of sweaters, night and day. Not for me.

Whether you're going for the so-called free electricity or not there are a couple of things you have to remember: 1) if your outside temp goes below 38-40 degrees the heat pumps will lose efficiency rapidly. In many MHs the HVAC system will auto magically cut out the heat pumps below a certain point; and, 2) if your temps are solidly cold- like low 20s or below- stuff in your water bay will start to freeze. Your propane furnace is the only thing that will feed warm air into the water bay. Heat pumps won't hack it. If you really love to squeeze as many nickels worth of "free electricity" as possible out of those greedy campground owners, you could put a 100W bulb in the bay on an extension cord. That might help. Go for it.


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What "free electricity"? Are you talking about campgrounds that don't charge a campsite fee? If so, that's a different story. I'm not talking about one of those. What i'm referring to is a campground where i pull in, go into the office, and PAY for my campsite. The electricity is not free when i do this and i expect to be able to use up to the amperage (30 amp service in my case) that i paid for.
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Mud, you missed my point. I agree with you-- thus the quotation marks used around the words free electricity to denote the sarcasm. I have no problem using the electric I've paid for, but I won't go so far as to excessively load my devices by running them in environmental conditions for which they were not designed, or willingly subject myself to an uncomfortably cold living space just to avoid burning a few bucks worth of propane. I know people who do both, when it's not necessary, and that's just silly, IMO.


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I use an electric space heater in the area of the water bay controlled by a Themo-Cube,.......

Yup, I know many folks who use either a small space heater or a light bulb.
Just out of curiosity, what's your reason?


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Mud, you missed my point. I agree with you-- thus the quotation marks used around the words free electricity to denote the sarcasm. I have no problem using the electric I've paid for, but I won't go so far as to excessively load my devices by running them in environmental conditions for which they were not designed, or willingly subject myself to an uncomfortably cold living space just to avoid burning a few bucks worth of propane. I know people who do both, when it's not necessary, and that's just silly, IMO.


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I should've have caught that. And i agree with everything you just said.
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I'm wondering why more people don't just use the heater that's in the coach. We just bought an itasca (2000) & plan on going to northern Michigan in late October, is the coach heater going to be inadequate ? Is there something everybody isn't telling me ?
I am not sure about other people, but we have a 2016 Ace and running the furnace does two things: 1. Uses propane. 2. It is noisy.

If parked with full hookups I would rather use a quiet electric heater using their power than the furnace. However, if it gets too cold you will likely need to use your propane furnace...
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Yup, I know many folks who use either a small space heater or a light bulb.
Just out of curiosity, what's your reason?
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The reason I have an electric space heater permenatly installed in the water bay area of my coach, (always plugged into an "ON at 35degree/OFF at 45 degree" Thermo-Cube), is because that space heater automatically prevents the waterlines and tanks in the basement of my coach from freezing in outside temps as low as 15 degrees Fahrenheit anytime I have shore or generator power... and I'm heating the living space with electric space heaters, (aka: NOT running the propane furnace).

When traveling, overnighting or camping in cold/freezing weather, (where I have no shore or genset power), I run the propane furnace.... which heats both the living space and the basement.

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Yup, I know many folks who use either a small space heater or a light bulb.
Just out of curiosity, what's your reason?
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We run our propane furnace when we camp during the winter, or if it's cool at night when traveling. When our MH is parked for any period of time at home we use an oil heater to keep things warm at night. It doesn't have to be toasty warm, just warm enough to keep condensation down and the pipes from freezing up. We use our MH year round so it doesn't sit empty for long.
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