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Old 11-06-2015, 11:51 AM   #1
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Window fogging

I have a 2006 Southwind Motorhome. All of my dual pane windows are fogging badly. A local glass company suggest that one of the pains could be removed making it a single pane window. Using the existing single pane glass. Has anyone tried this solution.
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A few have done just that BUT they will sweat and it will be colder.
I have had all my windows resealed by Dave Root.
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It can be done but it's not that simple. Once one of the pains is removed the window unit won't fit properly in the frame, it's now to thin. Unless you just smack it and hope only one pain breaks you'll have to remove the whole window frame assembly in order to remove one pain. At that point you might as well fix it right.
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Wayne,

You can fix yourself. See other threads on this.

But do not delay, staying fogged will result in perm stains and drive up the repair cost as the glass will need to be replaced. It is tempered glass, rather expensive.

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A few have done just that BUT they will sweat and it will be colder.
I have had all my windows resealed by Dave Root.
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I have also used Dave Root...met us at our campsite (in Bend, Oregon), did the work right in the park. Nice guy, great work and warranted for 3 years. I only had one window done and it took about an hour from removal, through rebuild to reinstallation. The window looks like new now! I chose Dave based on several recommendations from this site and he lived up to his recommendations.
He also sells kits for those who are do it yourself inclined.
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I have a 2006 Southwind Motorhome. All of my dual pane windows are fogging badly. A local glass company suggest that one of the pains could be removed making it a single pane window. Using the existing single pane glass. Has anyone tried this solution.
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First off, as you more than likely know, the fogging of dual pane windows in Motor homes is phenomenally common. About 99% of the folks who've dealt with them, have had them repaired back to normalcy. But me, being in the 1% went a different route. In our previous coach, a '99 Fleetwood Bounder 34V, we had both the passenger and drivers side, side windows, both the slider and stationary one, fog up.

When this happened, I figured if it happened one time, after repair, it most likely would happen again so, I went with plan B. I contacted a local auto glass shop and, told them of my idea. They were all too happy to work with me on this idea.

I took both side windows out and headed down to their place. What we did was, removed both sections of dual pane glass and proceeded to install, LAMINATED GLASS in there. The Laminated glass he used was just as thick as the two panes he removed. So the fit was perfect. A new outer rubber extrusion was needed and, he had some. And, the really good part was, the thicker laminated glass was the exact same color and tint as the dual panes he removed.

When it was all done, I re-installed them in the coach. They looked EXACTLY like what was removed.

Now, here's the thing. I was told that I would have "sweating", over heating, EXTRA NOISE, and more. Well, none of that ever happened. We used that coach for another two years and, in multiple climates and scenarios. We camped in snow, desert heat and, close to freeways etc. We never experienced sweating of any magnitude, no EXTRA noise, and the coach did not see any hotter or colder interiors during camping.

Maybe we were lucky. Maybe it was 'cause we used extra thick laminated glass. Who knows. But, the point is, changing to single pane glass IS, a viable option. But, in my opinion and, experience, if you're thinking about doing it, make it LAMINATED glass. If you were to use just one of the panes that is originally installed, I think you would maybe experience additional noise and maybe some of the other cause and effects. Good luck on your endeavor.
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I repaired 3 of my fogged windows myself.

Do some research and you'll a number of threads. There is also a couple of Youtube videos that shows how to do this.

I bought the material from DK Hardware, paid ~$100 but still have about 1/2 left.

Not hard if you are handy.

I would only consider removing 1 of the panes as a last resort. It will be substantially hotter in the summer and cooler in the winter without the dual pane windows.
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I have also used Dave Root...met us at our campsite (in Bend, Oregon), did the work right in the park. Nice guy, great work and warranted for 3 years. I only had one window done and it took about an hour from removal, through rebuild to reinstallation. The window looks like new now! I chose Dave based on several recommendations from this site and he lived up to his recommendations.
He also sells kits for those who are do it yourself inclined.
Dave drove about 250 mi to my home to fix my windows, not once but 2 times, great guy.
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I repaired 3 of my fogged windows myself.

Do some research and you'll a number of threads. There is also a couple of Youtube videos that shows how to do this.

I bought the material from DK Hardware, paid ~$100 but still have about 1/2 left.

Not hard if you are handy.

I would only consider removing 1 of the panes as a last resort. It will be substantially hotter in the summer and cooler in the winter without the dual pane windows.
Can you be more specific about how you repaired fogged windows yourself? I could not figure out what material you were referring to on DK Hardware's web site. The youtube videos I have found that show repair of dual pane windows all are for non-tempered glass and all the dual pane glass in my RV is tempered which would shatter if I attempted to drill holes in it so I and others would appreciate it if you could give more details.
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My first three coaches were single pane glass. Never had any of aliments that folks say happens. I think in many cases logic is out of control. Go north in summer and south in winter, never had a need for dual pane glass. If could have option single pane in current coach I would have. But they gotcha. I don't like the idea that I know I will have to spend several hundred dollars to fix something that is made to fail.
I see the problem as an industry that can't make a dual pane window to endure the service that RV's produce. Heard of any house windows needing to be resealed lately !
When my time comes I will definitely take Fire Up's route.
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If you are not DIYr, and live in Florida call Suncoast Designers | RV Window Repair Specialists in Hudson, FL
They are good - expensive to do - did all my windows and cost $5k, but it has a ten year prorated warranty. As has been suggested, people have done it themselves - not something I would attempt to do!
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Here is a post that started me on my quest
DIY Fogged Window Repair

There were several good replies,

Here is a post I did that listed the supplies and how I did it in detail .
Don't wait too long

Getting the window apart was the hardest part, I finally found that if I used some lacquer thinner it would break down the sealant and I used a long razor blade to cut through the sealant.

Hope this helps
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Can you be more specific about how you repaired fogged windows yourself? I could not figure out what material you were referring to on DK Hardware's web site. The youtube videos I have found that show repair of dual pane windows all are for non-tempered glass and all the dual pane glass in my RV is tempered which would shatter if I attempted to drill holes in it so I and others would appreciate it if you could give more details.
I did a number of windows in our previous MH, bought the materials from CR Laurence. CRL Search
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Here is a post that started me on my quest
DIY Fogged Window Repair

There were several good replies,

Here is a post I did that listed the supplies and how I did it in detail .
Don't wait too long

Getting the window apart was the hardest part, I finally found that if I used some lacquer thinner it would break down the sealant and I used a long razor blade to cut through the sealant.

Hope this helps

Use a heat gun around the outer edge. of the glass. Softens the sealer and you can slice it open fairly easily with a utility knife. If it's a slider you can also use a heat gun on the metal and eventually slide it off the end of the glass unit.
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