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Old 08-27-2015, 11:38 AM   #1
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Winegard Traveler VS....installation

We want a traveler 1000 satellite , period...I hear so many problem stories about the other dome units.
I contacted Fleetwood and decided I wanted the Traveler installed by the same guys who built the coach. They quoted me 10-12 hours of labor to install!!!!
Why? It seems the Fleetwood bounder comes prewired with 2 coax cables (rf1 and rf2) and a power supply harness.
I confirmed this with Winegard as they say the Traveler requires a 6 wire data harness that needs to be installed... thus the extra time quoted by Fleetwood.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks!!
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:43 AM   #2
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Not even close! I did it myself in less than a day. I used the same cables that were there, and added one more from the antenna that goes to the control box. Simple.

Winegard Trav'ler Installation - DIY

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I have a tiffin so I do not know how the bounder is wired. I suspect though you have two rf coax cables going to the satellite dish. One cable will go down to the entertainment area in the front of the coach. The other cable will go to the entertainment area to the back of the coach. This is done so you can put a single tuner sattelite reciever in each area and hook it up to the associated tv. You can use your winegard in this manner. The only other thing that would have to be done is to locate your control box inside the coach near the dish and run a cable through the roof to the outside and connect to the dish. It only took camping world about 4 hours to take off the old dish and install the winegard.

If you are going to go with the winegard you should get eitehr a dish hopper reciever or a directv genie ( depends on who you get programming through) If you go with the dish you will need to have a second RF cable run to the entertainment area where the reciever goes. On mine they ran the control cable and drilled a new hole for the 2nd coax cable when they installed the traveller. My understanding if you get the directv genie with SWM antenna it only needs one coax for the genie so you can use the existing coax. I am not positive on the direct since I do not have one but I believe that is the way it works.


If you do not have a sattelite programmer and are choosing a company to go with I would suggest starting with directv genie and the directv traveller. It is about 400.00 more than the dish version. The difference is the antenna itself. You can switch a directv traveller over to a dish version for less than 300.00 in parts. You cannot switch a dish reciever over to a directvHd version without switching the whole traveller antenna and paying the cost of a whole new system.

Each of the companies offer different hardware or different packages over the years that might make you want to switch. Having an antenna that can be readily converted is a plus in my opinion.
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I have a tiffin so I do not know how the bounder is wired. I suspect though you have two rf coax cables going to the satellite dish. One cable will go down to the entertainment area in the front of the coach. The other cable will go to the entertainment area to the back of the coach. This is done so you can put a single tuner sattelite reciever in each area and hook it up to the associated tv. You can use your winegard in this manner. The only other thing that would have to be done is to locate your control box inside the coach near the dish and run a cable through the roof to the outside and connect to the dish. It only took camping world about 4 hours to take off the old dish and install the winegard.

If you are going to go with the winegard you should get eitehr a dish hopper reciever or a directv genie ( depends on who you get programming through) If you go with the dish you will need to have a second RF cable run to the entertainment area where the reciever goes. On mine they ran the control cable and drilled a new hole for the 2nd coax cable when they installed the traveller. My understanding if you get the directv genie with SWM antenna it only needs one coax for the genie so you can use the existing coax. I am not positive on the direct since I do not have one but I believe that is the way it works.


If you do not have a sattelite programmer and are choosing a company to go with I would suggest starting with directv genie and the directv traveller. It is about 400.00 more than the dish version. The difference is the antenna itself. You can switch a directv traveller over to a dish version for less than 300.00 in parts. You cannot switch a dish reciever over to a directvHd version without switching the whole traveller antenna and paying the cost of a whole new system.

Each of the companies offer different hardware or different packages over the years that might make you want to switch. Having an antenna that can be readily converted is a plus in my opinion.
According to my factory install at NeXas RV that is not so.....they factory installed my Wineguard Traveler and we did not catch it but they advertise it as Direct TV. satellite. We are about to take delivery now and asked since we have Dish Network if we have to switch.....but the switch is on the dish for either or....we are shipping those guys the Dish receiver and they will install it while we are there.

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According to my factory install at NeXas RV that is not so.....they factory installed my Wineguard Traveler and we did not catch it but they advertise it as Direct TV. satellite. We are about to take delivery now and asked since we have Dish Network if we have to switch.....but the switch is on the dish for either or....we are shipping those guys the Dish receiver and they will install it while we are there.

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I do not know what you were told. I do know the specifics on the winegard traveler however. It is possible for you to change the dish version to work with a directv receiverif the parts are still available. I have seen some discussion that they may not be. if you convert a Dish traveler for use with directv you will not be able to get Directv HD. The Dish traveller is physically a smaller dish than the Directv Traveller. The dish traveller will not handle the larger parbolic dish that Directv HD needs


YOu can switch from Directv Traveler to receive dish signals. You have to switch the feedarm and reprogram the controller or replace the controller I am not sure which. The parts are in the 300.00 bracket. This is why I always recommend getting the directv version. I would have done that if i had realized the difference when I purchased mine

Something you said kind of worries me for you. If the Factory is telling you that the switch is on the antenna for either one then that is not a Traveler. It is a Satellite dome antenna they have switches to change from Directv to Dish, If you have read any of my posts you will find that i am not a big fan of the dome satellite dishes. If i was you I would call the factory and verify which satellite dish they actually installed. From what i have read on here most MH manufacturer sell the units with a dome dish. If you want a traveler on your new coach you pay for an entire install just like it was an aftermarket purchase and install. What is even more interesting seems to be that they install the traveler and do not give you any credit for the dome dish they do not install.
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I do not know what you were told. I do know the specifics on the winegard traveler however. It is possible for you to change the dish version to work with a directv receiverif the parts are still available. I have seen some discussion that they may not be. if you convert a Dish traveler for use with directv you will not be able to get Directv HD. The Dish traveller is physically a smaller dish than the Directv Traveller. The dish traveller will not handle the larger parbolic dish that Directv HD needs


YOu can switch from Directv Traveler to receive dish signals. You have to switch the feedarm and reprogram the controller or replace the controller I am not sure which. The parts are in the 300.00 bracket. This is why I always recommend getting the directv version. I would have done that if i had realized the difference when I purchased mine

Something you said kind of worries me for you. If the Factory is telling you that the switch is on the antenna for either one then that is not a Traveler. It is a Satellite dome antenna they have switches to change from Directv to Dish, If you have read any of my posts you will find that i am not a big fan of the dome satellite dishes. If i was you I would call the factory and verify which satellite dish they actually installed. From what i have read on here most MH manufacturer sell the units with a dome dish. If you want a traveler on your new coach you pay for an entire install just like it was an aftermarket purchase and install. What is even more interesting seems to be that they install the traveler and do not give you any credit for the dome dish they do not install.
I am told that a Winegard Travlr is being factory installed....and I am paying $1900 hundred for it......as I said, I told them I have a Dish receiver that they said they will make work.

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I am told that a Winegard Travlr is being factory installed....and I am paying $1900 hundred for it......as I said, I told them I have a Dish receiver that they said they will make work.

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That is great. That price is about correct. Once again if they started with a directv traveler it can be changed over to use with a dish receiver it is going from a dish traveler to a direct HD receiver that is the problem. My worry was when you mentioned they told you there was a switch in the dish to change over. There is not a switch it is a hardware change to make it work. It sounds like you are going to get what you expect and I would imagine enjoy it quite a lot.
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We want a traveler 1000 satellite , period...I hear so many problem stories about the other dome units.
I contacted Fleetwood and decided I wanted the Traveler installed by the same guys who built the coach. They quoted me 10-12 hours of labor to install!!!!
Why? It seems the Fleetwood bounder comes prewired with 2 coax cables (rf1 and rf2) and a power supply harness.
I confirmed this with Winegard as they say the Traveler requires a 6 wire data harness that needs to be installed... thus the extra time quoted by Fleetwood.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks!!
An experienced installer should be able to do the job in 1 - 2 -hours. If they are telling you 10 - 12 hours, they're adding a day of vacation in there too....

Most do-it-yourselfers can do it in less than a day.
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I did it myself. It did take two of us all day to do the work. Neither of use had ever done this before...but we are pretty handy.

My coach had an older system (King) that apparently wasn't the factory unit....we found extra holes when we pulled off the old existing unit. That just took about an hour to remove and clean all the gunk off.

We had to drill a hole to run the new control cable. The existing hole was too small to pull the connectors for the new control cable through (coax would pull fine, but not the new control cable). That was one challenge. (It was tough going through about 5 layers of tough stuff including some steel).

Next, we had to bend the mounting plate I bought which was made for the satellite system (it was extra....and I HIGHLY recommend it. It was about 36" x 24" and about 3/8th of an inch thick steel and has the holes already drilled...just lay it out and caulk it and bolt it down and your done. It sure gave me warm fuzzies to know that the heavy system was mounted to the plate which was mounted to the roof). The plate was (naturally) flat, however the roof has a crown in it. We put the plate on a 2x4 and jumped up and down on it as it straddled the board, checking it to how it fit after each 10 or so jumps (for about 20 minutes all told!) and finally got it bent enough so that it followed the contour of the roof curve and it lay flat on the roof. (I'm not talking much of a curve...maybe 1/2" total across the 24" width...but more than I was will to accept and sure didn't want to shim it).

Lastly, that satellite system is heavy! We pulled it up to the roof using a rope, and it was all the two of us could do to get it up there without scratching the side of the coach.

Installation itself was a snap. This one was definitely the easiest and best set up for a do-it-your-selfer. Go for it.
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