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Old 12-17-2011, 09:17 PM   #29
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Anybody have any useful advice on an "older" 1995 P30 Chevy chassis ???
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We have a Vintage RV Forum and I bet those folks over there know all about it!
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Anybody have any useful advice on an "older" 1995 P30 Chevy chassis ???
yes... you can install headers and a cold air intake as well as have the computer reflashed at this place. Custom Tuning Infor

wont give you 8.1/allion performance but it will make a dramatic increase in hp/torque. (about 45lb ft and 60hp)
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Thankyou Very much to both of you !! I figured (after I posted) that I had put that in the wrong forum .... I'll go ask over there,, Thanks again,,, D
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Just an FYI...we can custom tune chips with UltraPower for older 454's as well as all the newer engines as well!
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Just an FYI...we can custom tune chips with UltraPower for older 454's as well as all the newer engines as well!
Can you do anything for a 350 ??
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Old 12-18-2011, 07:43 AM   #35
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The Workhorse chassis is a good chassis as is the Ford chassis.

Workhorse has stopped production of any chassis of any kind and the plant in Union City has been closed and is being delegated by Navistar to produce chassis for delivery vans at a Delivery Van plant in Ohio starting in mid 2012. No one has been able to produce any evidence from navistar that Workhorse will ever produce another chassis, gas or diesel?
There were rumors that there would be a Workhorse chassis at the Louisville show, but have not seen even one comment to suggest they actually had a chassis there.. If they were actually returning to the market, they would be chassing all the manufacturers trying to sell chassis and have not seen any confirmation of this.

At the same time Ford announced that they were transferrring their F 53 RV chassis production from a specialty chassis plant in Detroit, back into a Ford plant in Ohio for continued production and as of now Ford is the only manufacturer actually producing gas chassis for Type A motor homes in North America.
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" 8.1 Workhorse will blow the doors off a Ford V10" from a previous post. The latest configurations of the 8.1 & the V10 are: Workhorse 8.1--340 HP, torque 450#@3200 RPM Ford V10--362 HP, torque 457#@3250 RPM. Unless the Workhorse 8.1 was running a Kenne Bell supercharger, which produces 507 HP and torque 692#@3300 RPM, I don't see the "blow the doors off a Ford V10" happening.
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" 8.1 Workhorse will blow the doors off a Ford V10" from a previous post. The latest configurations of the 8.1 & the V10 are: Workhorse 8.1--340 HP, torque 450#@3200 RPM Ford V10--362 HP, torque 457#@3250 RPM. Unless the Workhorse 8.1 was running a Kenne Bell supercharger, which produces 507 HP and torque 692#@3300 RPM, I don't see the "blow the doors off a Ford V10" happening.
we could settle it on the highway with a side by side acceleration test.
Otherwise you can hug your dyno numbers like a security blanket.

BTW... there is no "latest 8.1" since its been out of production since 2009. Ford may have stepped up in 2010... when there is no other market competition in the gas arena.
So up until 2009 Workhorse 496 > Ford V10
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we could settle it on the highway with a side by side acceleration test.
Otherwise you can hug your dyno numbers like a security blanket.

BTW... there is no "latest 8.1" since its been out of production since 2009. Ford may have stepped up in 2010... when there is no other market competition in the gas arena.
So up until 2009 Workhorse 496 > Ford V10
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Nope! The FORD has MORE Horsepower and MORE Torque!

Well, they are close, but the FORD has slightly more torque (2 lbs./ft) and the FORD does have 22 more HP than the CHEVY. Even though the CHEVY engine is 1.3 LITERS bigger displacement than the FORD the CHEVY still makes less HP and torque.

These are the specs for the 2006 Model year from my 2006 Holiday Rambler Brochure, both are 22,000 lbs chassis:

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• 6.8L 3-Valve V-10 Gasoline Engine with
Electronic Fuel Injection
• Engine Displacement: 6.8L/415 Cu. In.
•Power: 362 HP
• Torque: 457 lbs./ft.
• TorqShift 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive
Transmission with Tow/Haul Mode

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• 8.1L V-8 Gasoline Engine with Electronic
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• Engine Displacement: 8.1L/496 Cu. In.
• Power: 340 HP
• Torque: 455 lbs./ft.
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Did anybody mention that pound for pound and foot for foot, an 8.1 Workhorse will blow the doors off a V10 Ford powered F53.

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we could settle it on the highway with a side by side acceleration test.
Otherwise you can hug your dyno numbers like a security blanket.

BTW... there is no "latest 8.1" since its been out of production since 2009. Ford may have stepped up in 2010... when there is no other market competition in the gas arena.
So up until 2009 Workhorse 496 > Ford V10

So I guess maybe it was up to 2005????

We have travelled with many groups in caravans across the country and never once did we think we were in a drag race. At the end of the day we always arrive together and stay at the same campground.
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Nope! The FORD has MORE Horsepower and MORE Torque!

Well, they are close, but the FORD has slightly more torque (2 lbs./ft) and the FORD does have 22 more HP than the CHEVY. Even though the CHEVY engine is 1.3 LITERS bigger displacement than the FORD the CHEVY still makes less HP and torque.

These are the specs for the 2006 Model year from my 2006 Holiday Rambler Brochure, both are 22,000 lbs chassis:

FORD
• 6.8L 3-Valve V-10 Gasoline Engine with
Electronic Fuel Injection
• Engine Displacement: 6.8L/415 Cu. In.
•Power: 362 HP
• Torque: 457 lbs./ft.
• TorqShift 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive
Transmission with Tow/Haul Mode

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• 8.1L V-8 Gasoline Engine with Electronic
Fuel Injection
• Engine Displacement: 8.1L/496 Cu. In.
• Power: 340 HP
• Torque: 455 lbs./ft.
• 6-Speed Automatic Transmission
because a "rated" printed number is accurate?
Lay the torque curves over each other and the chevy will edge it out easy. Then lets not forget the "canned" tunes these units come with.
My dodge pickup is paper rated for 200hp. It makes 250hp at the tires with the stock engine.
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So I guess maybe it was up to 2005????
We have travelled with many groups in caravans across the country and never once did we think we were in a drag race. At the end of the day we always arrive together and stay at the same campground.
My suggestion was just a solution to the "bench racing" comparos happening. Im offering real world objective data. Ive driven both and voted for the 496 with my money. I consider the chevy power plant to have an edge over the ford.
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