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Old 12-09-2014, 07:16 AM   #71
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Our yearly travels will be between 5000 to 7000 per year.
As many have stated, a diesel is intended for high mileage use. If you drive 5-7K/year and keep it 15 years, your total miles will be 105K at most, well within the capability of a Ford V10. Based on your intended usage, the answer is gas. Save your money.
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I am thinking a gas rig would be the best for a number of reason. Now if I can find the perfect floorplan in 38' or less. Newmar has a new model out this year (Canyon Star 3612) that I am looking at hard. I already know I can upgrade to a 26000 lb chassis to give me the CCC that I want.

When we go to the Tampa RV Supershow we will be looking at everything looking for the perfect floorplan. I also hope I can pick Bob Tiffin's brain for any future models coming out. Being we so close to a lot dealers we may look at some used DP models, but the price would have to be less than I know what I can get the Canyon Star for.
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I have not read through all 6 pages of comments this may have been mentioned but have you driven a 36-40 ft diesel and gasser up and down hills or mountains. Spend an hour or so driving each, then imagine towing another 3 thousand pounds. The chassis are different I have found the handling and overal roadability on a diesel is far superior. Even going around turns in traffic is easier. A diesel from a well known reputable company a few years old in my opinion would be the best way to go. If you are going to drive just a few thousand miles each year up and down I-95 or back and forth on I-10 and stay parked most of the time then a gasser may be the way to go. Another thing to keep in mind are the new vehicle bugs that can run into a few years of straightening out. Looking at the new rigs at the shows is only half of the decision process because they all look good. Good luck
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I am thinking a gas rig would be the best for a number of reason. Now if I can find the perfect floorplan in 38' or less. Newmar has a new model out this year (Canyon Star 3612) that I am looking at hard. I already know I can upgrade to a 26000 lb chassis to give me the CCC that I want.

When we go to the Tampa RV Supershow we will be looking at everything looking for the perfect floorplan. I also hope I can pick Bob Tiffin's brain for any future models coming out. Being we so close to a lot dealers we may look at some used DP models, but the price would have to be less than I know what I can get the Canyon Star for.

Between Tampa and Fort Myers, 120 miles south, there are many large dealers. North Trails in Fort Myers is Newmar's biggest dealer.


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I have not read through all 6 pages of comments this may have been mentioned but have you driven a 36-40 ft diesel and gasser up and down hills or mountains. Spend an hour or so driving each, then imagine towing another 3 thousand pounds. The chassis are different I have found the handling and overal roadability on a diesel is far superior. Even going around turns in traffic is easier. A diesel from a well known reputable company a few years old in my opinion would be the best way to go. If you are going to drive just a few thousand miles each year up and down I-95 or back and forth on I-10 and stay parked most of the time then a gasser may be the way to go. Another thing to keep in mind are the new vehicle bugs that can run into a few years of straightening out. Looking at the new rigs at the shows is only half of the decision process because they all look good. Good luck

This is why the gas/diesel argument is a false one for most owners. A 40' coach with 4 slides is likely going to be above the GVWR of a gas chassis unless some serious compromises have been made. At 20-24k GVWR the gas chassis offer a serious option. Much above that is diesel territory.


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Well said Steve.
I guess I have never ask but do they even make 40-45' gassers with slides?

I knew what we wanted long before purchase.
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Well said Steve.
I guess I have never ask but do they even make 40-45' gassers with slides?

I knew what we wanted long before purchase.
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I have not read through all 6 pages of comments this may have been mentioned but have you driven a 36-40 ft diesel and gasser up and down hills or mountains. Spend an hour or so driving each, then imagine towing another 3 thousand pounds. The chassis are different I have found the handling and overal roadability on a diesel is far superior. Even going around turns in traffic is easier. A diesel from a well known reputable company a few years old in my opinion would be the best way to go. If you are going to drive just a few thousand miles each year up and down I-95 or back and forth on I-10 and stay parked most of the time then a gasser may be the way to go. Another thing to keep in mind are the new vehicle bugs that can run into a few years of straightening out. Looking at the new rigs at the shows is only half of the decision process because they all look good. Good luck
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Well said Steve.
I guess I have never ask but do they even make 40-45' gassers with slides?

I knew what we wanted long before purchase.

There have been some 40' built over the years. Currently Winnebago builds a Adventurer that measures 39'+. It has a GVWR OF 26k and a GCWR of 30k. I'm sure there are others.


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Seems to me that some of these discussions would be better over a glass of beer and some ribs, and probably end with better conclusions...if buying a used diesel, would these timing considerations as to the air filter changes really make a difference? Is the diesel all that delicate?
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Seems to me that some of these discussions would be better over a glass of beer and some ribs, and probably end with better conclusions...if buying a used diesel, would these timing considerations as to the air filter changes really make a difference? Is the diesel all that delicate?
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The age of the owner may also be relevant when you are looking at low to mid 30 feet. If you have a family and some toys, and take two week vacations, I think the arguments are not as strong for a diesel, when you consider the newer F-53 chassis.

On the reverse side, now as a senior citizen, I kind of like quiet, extra margins for safety, and my reactions are not as fast as when I was 40, so I'm drawn to a diesel and a comfort drive. I'm also drawn to longer lengths as bathrooms are more important than when I was younger and I might want to install a hydraulic lift some day. You don't have to haul a toad, you can rent one.

I met an older h and w who had stopped outside my home with the 37 foot, 3 year old gas rig and now they were not hauling a toad and yes they had about 20 years of experience with 3 different motorhomes. They were quite happy and the wife used her cane to get down the stairs. The only thing they didn't like was the service from their local dealer.

I just think some owners get up onto their high horses and forget how personal these decisions are and how far the gas F-53 chassis has come in closing the gap. I was told to go drive one, I did, in fact on the same day drove the same 34 length in gas and diesel. Maybe some of the older experts need to do the same and sure, I'm still learning.
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Thanks palehorse89, I will read and expand my knowledge. When I buy my motorhome, beer and ribs will be available, even for the cranky ones like me.
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