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Old 07-14-2012, 04:21 PM   #1
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You don't get what you pay for

We bough a 2006 hr endeavor, I loved it because it had a desk unit instead of a second sofa, and we had four slides which makes it huge. We are full timers and you need all the space you can get. Well, since we bought it, the original owner did not take care of it, broken icemaker line in fridge, flooded the living room carpet, broken pipe under kitchen sink, repaired twice, finally by a capable plumber, loose pipe under vanity, slight flooding, broken lines on all generator tubing, front end problems, we had generator and engine serviced. Captains chairs did not swivel, never had the brackets put it, we left the electric awning out, overnight huge wind came up and tore the brackets off, needed all be housings. We will never leave the awning out when we leave or overnight. We keep all the rv mobile techs busy in all the campgrounds we visit. They have to eat too. I never realized that going down the road could make everything bounce so much that screws constantly have to be tightened. I thought it would be more economical to live in a mh. Ha, but you get to see the county, meet new people and I can have my pets with me. It is all worth it as far as I can tell. We are going to our first rally and are really looking forward to it, we can all share war stories.

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Old 07-14-2012, 05:14 PM   #2
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Start fixing things yourself, unless your rich. I would have spent hundreds of thousands by now if I had the rely on $75-100/hr handymen.
If it's broken and fix it yourself you get job satisfaction. I personally don't like buying people their Mercedes or big SUV's....

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Old 07-14-2012, 05:19 PM   #3
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Sorry you're having so many problems. I know it's hard to believe at this point but that is a fine machine and once you get the bugs worked out, well, it won't be trouble free but things will break at a much less frequent pace.

Becoming a handyman is a good approach, but extended warranties are another way to go... if you get a good one.

Best of luck and hang in there.

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Old 07-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #4
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Fiesta48 is right on the money. Fix anything yourself that you can. While some of the problems of a motorhome are beyond the capabilities of the average DIY person, many things are easy to repair. Dont be afraid to try most repairs. There is a ton of good advice, information and expert rver's on this site and others that will gladly help. But I agree with you that the experience of rving is worth the aggravation.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:53 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by hit the road View Post
I thought it would be more economical to live in a mh.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:11 PM   #6
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how is it the original owners fault? Caveat emptor.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #7
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OP, I'm sure my son in law would like to meet you! He does mobile RV repair.

Me? I learned years ago to twist my own screws and repair what breaks.
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Sorry to hear about your issues. We are not full time, but we have spent over 1200 nights in our motorhome in the last six years. I can count on one hand the number of loose screws in those years. We have not (knock on wood) had loose connections or broken pipes in the water systems. We have had some OEM failures (air conditioner, convertor, electric awning, power cord insulation) but nothing like the issues you are describing. On the other hand, our custom built, all American, one nail and wire at a time, stick and brick always needs something done. I hate leaving the motorhome because I know something will need fixed or repaired there.
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As they say it happens don't sweat the little stuff. You might try a little lock tight to hold it together.
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Sounds Like.....

Sounds about right. Stuff breaks, if you can't fix it yourself you have to pay someone who can. The more you can do yourself the better.

Losing an awning to wind is not a failure of the awning. But it is an expensive lesson. For us (many years ago) it was water dripping out of redwoods and the lesson was to lower one side of the awning so the water can run off without pooling.

Good news though. You've found the right place.

FYI: 40+ years of RV'ing, still learning. Lots of it from folks here.

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Old 07-16-2012, 01:24 PM   #11
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Yes, it's true, you don't necessarily get what you pay for, but you do pay for what you get, even if it's not what you want.

We all sympathize with your (undeserved) troubles, and the best solution is to follow the previous advice and learn to do it yourself as much as possible. You might take some Saturday morning seminars at Home Depot, or even some seminars at some of the RV sites. There are often demos and lectures at rallies, and RV shows, and some locations such as CW offer classes on caring for your MH.

Your best bet is going to be to examine and learn as much as you can from everything you have to fix or get fixed. Most things make sense if you study them, and every lesson learned can make the next problem a little easier.

Sorry if this sounds pedantic and pompous, It's not meant to be: just keep at it and it will get better.

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Hit the road - Stuff goes wrong with houses on wheels. After 2 1/2 years my to-do list is down to zero. But pretty much every trip something comes up.
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My to do list is never ta done!

Always something new to do, just not as much as you get the list down to manageable.
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55 years of RV'ing here, lots of experience with everything but 5th wheels!

In 1957 my parents rented a TT using a bumper hitch. In 1958 they special ordered a KenCraft trailer. Pressurized water system (pressure tank and hand pump), gas instant water heater, combined shower and head (no grey or black tanks, they didn't have them back then), gas mantle light, propane in the floor furnace.
I can't tell you how many tires we went through on it. Even went to oversize truck tires that pounded out the wheel wells. My mother and I spent one day riding in the TT while my father drove through the flooded washes in the SW while we swabbed up the water that came in. My father spent a whole day caulking the wheel wells up. Went to heavy duty mobile home tires/wheels to fix it.
I learned a lot about repairing stuff that broke, although my parents did go to an Airstream Excella 500 (Wally Byam # 8008), then a Foretravel MH. Guess that's where I learned about buying a quality rig and learning to fix it myself!

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