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Old 10-11-2019, 11:36 PM   #1
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Price of New Class B's - Did you purchase your RV used?

The price of new Class B's, especially Roadtreks, have really skyrocketed in the past few years making them even more unaffordable than they ever were....

If you can manage to find a good used vehicle on the secondary market you can save money, not only on the sales price, but, also on the sales tax..... not to mention financing...

As an example, a 2019 Roadtrek Adventurous now has a starting price of over $151,000...... while a brand new model 6 years ago was only around $122,500.... that's a huge increase.... almost a 23 percent increase...

I don't know how this translates to the price of used vehicles, but, I can only imagine that it does two things,

1. People who own these vehicles will think twice about trading in their vehicles for a brand new model.

2. The relative scarcity of these vehicles, which were not mass produced like cars will not be easy to find and owners will want top dollar for their vehicles should they decide to sell..

Trading in your RV just to get a newer version of the one you have is the most expensive way to go....

What do you think about this??
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Roadtreks skyrocketed before EHG went into shambles. If you buy a "new" one now it likely sat on a dealer lot for a year and should be sold for a major discount. Used ones have depreciated much faster due to this also so... maybe not the best brand to use as an example
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Old 10-12-2019, 11:17 AM   #3
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I don't know if that's true?

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Roadtreks skyrocketed before EHG went into shambles. If you buy a "new" one now it likely sat on a dealer lot for a year and should be sold for a major discount. Used ones have depreciated much faster due to this also so... maybe not the best brand to use as an example
I'm not in the market for a new Roadtrek, but, if you look at the starting price, $151,500....

Yes, EHG had problems, but, it was a few people who embezzled money .... whole company is not at fault....

And, that's the starting price....... even with a discount of the MSRP, that's a of money and sales tax.

I think that $195,000 is an enormous amount for a Class B.... with options...


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Old 10-13-2019, 08:39 PM   #4
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September of this year is the first time we stepped into the RV market, ever. Initially we were considering used, but decided to see what kind of potential deals were out there on new class B's. I went looking knowing MSRP's were heavily inflated.



At one large show, we were presented with an offer of 10% off MSRP, on 2 different class B vehicles, each built by a different company, both being offered by the same dealer. I declined and proposed a substantially larger discount. Within minutes, the next mark down by the dealer, was triple the first amount he proposed, and within 2% of my proposed offer. However, we didn't purchase a unit from them.



Days later I was made an offer by another dealer, and that reduction from MSRP was a larger % mark down than those I listed above. We made the deal.


There appears to be room for negotiation of a sale price.
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Old 10-13-2019, 10:02 PM   #5
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Correct, more room for price negotiating on brand new units

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September of this year is the first time we stepped into the RV market, ever. Initially we were considering used, but decided to see what kind of potential deals were out there on new class B's. I went looking knowing MSRP's were heavily inflated.



At one large show, we were presented with an offer of 10% off MSRP, on 2 different class B vehicles, each built by a different company, both being offered by the same dealer. I declined and proposed a substantially larger discount. Within minutes, the next mark down by the dealer, was triple the first amount he proposed, and within 2% of my proposed offer. However, we didn't purchase a unit from them.



Days later I was made an offer by another dealer, and that reduction from MSRP was a larger % mark down than those I listed above. We made the deal.


There appears to be room for negotiation of a sale price.
I think that there's more room for a discount on a brand new vehicle, and have found the same with cars.

We were at an RV show a year ago just before Roadtrek had there crisis, and, someone wanted to sell us a new E-Trek coach with a sticker price of $166,000 for $144,000....

It's much harder to get a substantial discount on a used RV from a dealership.... less profit margins.

I actually did think about it... but, we have a paid off 2012.. and you know that these depreciate really quickly in the first 3 or 4 years. I just couldn't do it..

It's all about the deal and the financing.... unless you pay cash...


Congratulations on your purchase. Enjoy...
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Old 10-13-2019, 10:35 PM   #6
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Not really the same

I think its important to acknowledge that while prices went up, so did the features. Lithium batteries are not cheap. And Roadtrek also added in-floor heat and the voltstart system to their models. Roadtrek is obviously targeting the luxury buyer, but Winnebago has also been creating some relatively upscale models.
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Old 10-14-2019, 08:13 AM   #7
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That's true.

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I think its important to acknowledge that while prices went up, so did the features. Lithium batteries are not cheap. And Roadtrek also added in-floor heat and the voltstart system to their models. Roadtrek is obviously targeting the luxury buyer, but Winnebago has also been creating some relatively upscale models.
Ross, you're correct.... I know that they upped the game.
A lot of those features like the heated floors are super expensive and complicated.... when they stop working, it will be extremely expensive to repair.
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Old 10-14-2019, 10:49 AM   #8
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when they stop working, it will be extremely expensive to repair.

Which probably is not a huge issue for the folks spending that much money on a new unit. Those of us buying used may want to pay closer attention to repair costs however. We saw used four and five year old Roadtrek's that had been driven less than 10,000 mile. The owners were obviously not overly concerned about costs. People are buying these things for tailgating.
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I know... had some very expensive repairs/replacements in the last 12 months

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Which probably is not a huge issue for the folks spending that much money on a new unit. Those of us buying used may want to pay closer attention to repair costs however. We saw used four and five year old Roadtrek's that had been driven less than 10,000 mile. The owners were obviously not overly concerned about costs. People are buying these things for tailgating.
My 2012 RS Adventurous has just under 49,000 miles. I purchased it in May 2017 with 26,000 miles. I've replaced and/or upgraded a lot of stuff and now it's practically like new. Very expensive.
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