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Old 09-10-2019, 01:00 PM   #1
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04/05 Evolution Chassis ZF tie rod end part numbers?

Hello all,

looking to source new tie rod ends for our 05 Winnie Vectra that has the ZF IFS. I contacted the local Freightliner dealer (Velocity Trucks) and was quoted just shy of $500 for the 4 ends! Ouch! Before I go and drop that kind of cash, I want to look around to see if units with zerk fittings are available. The dealer would not give me the OE part numbers to use as a cross reference. They've done this to me before but was able to find the number here and order that part elsewhere. Does anyone know the numbers or somewhere else I could contact to find this out or source these parts? I'd be most appreciative of that info.

Thanks!
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Hello all,

looking to source new tie rod ends for our 05 Winnie Vectra that has the ZF IFS. I contacted the local Freightliner dealer (Velocity Trucks) and was quoted just shy of $500 for the 4 ends! Ouch! Before I go and drop that kind of cash, I want to look around to see if units with zerk fittings are available. The dealer would not give me the OE part numbers to use as a cross reference. They've done this to me before but was able to find the number here and order that part elsewhere. Does anyone know the numbers or somewhere else I could contact to find this out or source these parts? I'd be most appreciative of that info.

Thanks!
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Well Sir, I don't know how long you've owned that coach but, if it were me, the very FIRST thing I'd do is, become a member of DTNA. Daimler Trucks North America. Formerly known as "Access Freightliner", that system will allow you to look up, at your convienience YOUR COACH'S CHASSIS. It will give you every single part, AND PART NUMBER that was installed on YOUR COACH. I've been involved in that for years and, I've looked up many, many chassis parts and found the numbers, then called my local Freightliner parts counter and TOLD them the part numbers I need.

They're REAL HAPPY when they hear stuff like that 'cause, they don't have to look things up and or, cross reference anything. I have looked up my tie rod ends and there's two different models mine could have came with. I have both sets of numbers. But, as much as our coach is almost a sister ship to yours, an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the CAT C-7 330 HP, it's not an independent front suspended model. So, I can't help you with my number's of my tie rod ends 'cause, they're more than likely, not the same ones.

But, it's not hard and doesn't cost you anything to become associated with DTNA. It does or, it can take up to a week or two to get things logged in properly so that you can use their site, at your convenience. But, it is by far, well worth the effort.
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Hi Scott,

I’ve seen postings on the DTNA. What is the best way to sign up for the service? Online?

Thanks, John
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Hi Scott,

Iíve seen postings on the DTNA. What is the best way to sign up for the service? Online?

Thanks, John
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The coach has to be registered in your name. Then, you can contact a Freightliner service center and either talk to a parts counter person or, maybe the service writer. It's been a while, as in about 6+ years since I did it. But, at least start there and see what they recommend. Yeah, sometimes you might have to jump through a hoop or two but, again, it's well worth it. It's amazing being able to just cruise through every single part in your chassis. Now, don't forget, it's only the chassis, not the box.

Winnebago has most or all answerable questions about the box.
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Only took me a couple business days to sign up this year. They appear to have made it easier... no trip to Freightliner. Here's what I did.

Go here... https://dtnacontent-dtna.prd.freight...h-america.html

Upper right corner... "New User"

2nd option "Customer Order Form" click on "click here"

Fill out the form. Check the "Freightliner" box and you'll need the last 6 digits of your VIN. As I recall, I put my RV make/model/year info in the comment area and mentioned I was a private owner of the RV. Last, Review and submit.

I got an email back in about 2 business days with my ID and PW and was good to go.

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The coach has to be registered in your name. Then, you can contact a Freightliner service center and either talk to a parts counter person or, maybe the service writer. It's been a while, as in about 6+ years since I did it. But, at least start there and see what they recommend. Yeah, sometimes you might have to jump through a hoop or two but, again, it's well worth it. It's amazing being able to just cruise through every single part in your chassis. Now, don't forget, it's only the chassis, not the box.

Winnebago has most or all answerable questions about the box.
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Thanks Scott, it's really handy that Winnie provides all the necessary manuals and documents right there on their website. Super handy!

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Only took me a couple business days to sign up this year. They appear to have made it easier... no trip to Freightliner. Here's what I did.

Go here... https://dtnacontent-dtna.prd.freight...h-america.html

Upper right corner... "New User"

2nd option "Customer Order Form" click on "click here"

Fill out the form. Check the "Freightliner" box and you'll need the last 6 digits of your VIN. As I recall, I put my RV make/model/year info in the comment area and mentioned I was a private owner of the RV. Last, Review and submit.

I got an email back in about 2 business days with my ID and PW and was good to go.

Hope this helps.
Thank you sir! I just submitted the form, will see what happens.
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Alright, I received a reply to my submission but because I bought the coach used, I'm not on the info that Freightliner has on file. Per their request, I went down to the local dealer (Velocity Truck Center) to get the info updated. The email very clearly states to ask them to "have the warranty registration database updated". There was several people in the service department that just looked at me with the most bizarre and blank looks on their faces like I had just asked for their first born for sacrifice or something. The warranty lady put my VIN in the system and said "that's not your name?" "no, same last name but thats only coincidence" I replied. "well there's nothing showing pending so there's nothing I can do" was her response. I showed here the email stating exactly what to do. She literally had no response and said "sorry". I already do not like the service department from previous interactions and this just further proved their incompetence. Freightliner says that I have to go to a dealer to update this so until I find a dealer that understands this, I guess I'm stuck?
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Alright, I received a reply to my submission but because I bought the coach used, I'm not on the info that Freightliner has on file. Per their request, I went down to the local dealer (Velocity Truck Center) to get the info updated. The email very clearly states to ask them to "have the warranty registration database updated". There was several people in the service department that just looked at me with the most bizarre and blank looks on their faces like I had just asked for their first born for sacrifice or something. The warranty lady put my VIN in the system and said "that's not your name?" "no, same last name but thats only coincidence" I replied. "well there's nothing showing pending so there's nothing I can do" was her response. I showed here the email stating exactly what to do. She literally had no response and said "sorry". I already do not like the service department from previous interactions and this just further proved their incompetence. Freightliner says that I have to go to a dealer to update this so until I find a dealer that understands this, I guess I'm stuck?
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Yep, that's business for ya. Quite often, the right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing or is up to. Some of these dealers don't do this process very often so, they're clueless. But, others say, "oh yeah, we can do that for ya, it will take a bit but, we'll do it for ya". It's too bad that you're running into your problem. While it may cause you a headache right now, it's soooooooo worth it in the end.
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Hello all,

looking to source new tie rod ends for our 05 Winnie Vectra that has the ZF IFS. I contacted the local Freightliner dealer (Velocity Trucks) and was quoted just shy of $500 for the 4 ends! Ouch! Before I go and drop that kind of cash, I want to look around to see if units with zerk fittings are available. The dealer would not give me the OE part numbers to use as a cross reference. They've done this to me before but was able to find the number here and order that part elsewhere. Does anyone know the numbers or somewhere else I could contact to find this out or source these parts? I'd be most appreciative of that info.

Thanks!

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Alright, I received a reply to my submission but because I bought the coach used, I'm not on the info that Freightliner has on file. Per their request, I went down to the local dealer (Velocity Truck Center) to get the info updated. The email very clearly states to ask them to "have the warranty registration database updated". There was several people in the service department that just looked at me with the most bizarre and blank looks on their faces like I had just asked for their first born for sacrifice or something. The warranty lady put my VIN in the system and said "that's not your name?" "no, same last name but thats only coincidence" I replied. "well there's nothing showing pending so there's nothing I can do" was her response. I showed here the email stating exactly what to do. She literally had no response and said "sorry". I already do not like the service department from previous interactions and this just further proved their incompetence. Freightliner says that I have to go to a dealer to update this so until I find a dealer that understands this, I guess I'm stuck?
I bought mine new and ran into the very same deal, still don't have it resolved

apparently some things to be worked out of the system
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YOU PROBABLY DO NOT NEED NEW STEERING ENDS -- JUST THE BOOTS ($15) + $350 Labor

Here's another post: I changed my boots this summer after running in to a brick wall at Freightliner.

Note: When every I look for a Freightliner Service Center I go to their website and try to find their "OASIS" Dealers. This program started years ago to let RVers know that location is FL friendly. However, it's not a well promoted program and many FL locations never heard of it. ...But those locations that do advertise "OASIS" will receive you well and they understand your needs when traveling on the road.

By now you are probably learning: Truck Stops and most truck repair facilities will NOT even work on an RV. They don't like RVs and they don't like all the "owner needs" that go with RV business. So tread lightly.

FL is not alone when it comes to over charging for services... and I very much dislike the 10% Environmental Fees they add to your bill... even if you you don't have any environmental waste. BUT THEY ALL DO THAT!!! And one day I home some lawyer starts a class actions suit against this profiteering.

On the other hand, be glad you have a Freightliner product, but technicallly, all FL locations are suppose to be able to provide you with service. And I really like the fact they operate on a first-come, first serve basis. With most able to get you into the shop the very next morning. So imagine if you have a Spartan or some other chassis? Not good, because FL will just tell these people they don't work on Spartan Chassis, even though they can. And FL has all the schematics for your coach. I also will call FL parts for info, prices and occasionally I can get them to talk to me about repairs. Like how to replace your plastic anti-freeze tank when your S/N says it's obsolete. (Don't go to the metal tank for $600. FL still sells the plastic tank for another model truck.)

Anyway... back to your boot situation. Here's a link to buy boots on Amazon:

Energy Suspension 9.13126G * BALLJOINT DUST BOOT

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Note: FL really does not know about these boots. The mechanic I worked with at Freightliner-Missoula was top notch; and after watching him replace my boots... all I can say is that I am glad I did not try to do with with some pickle-fork or ball join separator you can buy at Harbor Freight!

TIP: This is a good time to replace our hydraulic fluid (Dextron III) in your engine bay.

==> The tip is to unscrew the 1-1/4" hydraulic return line... and place it inside a large 4-gallon oil drum (or have multiple 1-gallon jugs ready). Then...

...have someone start your engine while you capture the returning fluid in the jug/drum.

...Keep filling the reservoir with fluid while the engine is running... and as necessary use your cell phone to tell the driver to stop the engine as needed.

...Repeat 2 or 3 times... or until you start to see "clean" Dextron III come out or your return fluid line. Re-attach... and then add 32 Oz of Lucas Power Steering Fluid "With Conditioners". (This is not the stop leak stuff.)

Drive your coach a little bit and top off as necessary... to the low level on the dip stick since your fluid it cold. Then recheck when your engine is hot some days later.

Note: This hydraulic fluid also is used by your side radiator fan clutch and your steering box... on your IFS. It's never under any real heat so it will last a long time. I think 15 years is long enough! Easy to do... and not very expensive. We also find our steering box is a little easier to turn after this fluid change with Lucas! We did this 30,000 miles ago. My how the miles go by!!!

I can't remember, but I think I got 9 quarts of Dextron III in my rig. Check your capacity and know you will only get about 90% of that amount out of your lines. But that's okay! This maybe tranny fluid, but it's not under a lot of heat. Moisture is the reason you want to change the fluid... and I have not heard of many people doing this.

PS: You should also check your anti-freeze ph or other way to measure it. And if you have 75K+ miles on your coach; and you have not replaced that plastic anti-freeze return tank by now, then I would... And your drive belt... and your alternator. (Why not? It's going to fail sometime after 75,000 miles.) Throw a FASS Lift pump on it... Ag-Diesel Power Module... Adjust your valves... and you almost good to go. (This summer I plan on removing my muffler and adding a XL5050 Jones Resonator.

Then your ISC will be good to go for another 75,000 miles or more. (Time-Tested-Metal is the best!)

Happy RVing!!!

Good luck to you.

El Camino Man: I might suggest you look at my other threads so you can read about things you can do to protect your CAPS Injection Pump (or HPFR).
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