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Old 07-10-2013, 09:06 AM   #1
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2007 fred driveline vibration fix

Hello All, on my first trip to FL back in December I noticed a driveline vibration which at first sounded like a tire but tires checked out Perfect.

I discovered this driveline vibration started at 62 and ended at 72 mph.

On my second trip in April, I was pulling my Race car trailer and the Vibration was considerably worse but same speeds affected the vibration.

I attempted to have it repaired in Memphis 1350.00 later it was same, needless to say they got charged back.

After arriving home I started investigating the vibration my self working with a Friend at Camerota Truck Parts, here in CT.

I brought them all 4 shafts, and they proceeded to rebuild and balance them, I reinstalled them and the vibration was better but still there.

Further investigation brought me to Dana spicer corporation Dealer help, they provided me with a link for Drive line Analysis Program found Here.

The Expert - Torsional Analysis

With the vehicle loaded on flat ground I proceeded to take all the measurements required for the Program.

the Program revealed that the Differential Pinion angle was the culprit and naturally the more load you put on it the worse this angle gets.

Yesterday I removed the spring seats between the differential and the leaf spring, put them in my bridgeport and milled 2 Degrees out of the 5 degree angle to roll the pinion down 2 degrees.

I am happy to report the Driveline vibration is Now Fixed and FRED is Smooth As Silk rolling down the Highway at any speed.

I wanted to share this story and the link that fixed my problem.

Below you will find the before and after results of the analysis changing the shims by 2 degrees.

The Idea is to have results as close to Zero as Possible, so even though the as received were within acceptable range it still caused a problem.

Ted.
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Just going through the same scenario. If I was a betting man I would have laid it all on the tires as being the culprit, but after our 4th of July weekend get away with the same shimmy, at the same speeds, after doing everything I could think of to rule out tires has been done. All I could reason was that there is a drive shaft problem on the drive home Sunday. I dreaded the thought of removing all the shafts and taking them to get balanced.

But now I'm betting it all on drive shaft angle after reading your post. My RV is on the Chevy C5500 chassis and needed to have the frame/drive shaft lengthened by the RV manufacturer for the house portion. So I'll bet that one of the carrier bearings is off just slightly causing to sharp of an angle to the differential, or another bearing. I'm much happier now that you've given me hope that Saturday wont be spent removing drive shafts, and I'll just need to adjust a carrier bearing.
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Just going through the same scenario. If I was a betting man I would have laid it all on the tires as being the culprit, but after our 4th of July weekend get away with the same shimmy, at the same speeds, after doing everything I could think of to rule out tires has been done. All I could reason was that there is a drive shaft problem on the drive home Sunday. I dreaded the thought of removing all the shafts and taking them to get balanced.

But now I'm betting it all on drive shaft angle after reading your post. My RV is on the Chevy C5500 chassis and needed to have the frame/drive shaft lengthened by the RV manufacturer for the house portion. So I'll bet that one of the carrier bearings is off just slightly causing to sharp of an angle to the differential, or another bearing. I'm much happier now that you've given me hope that Saturday wont be spent removing drive shafts, and I'll just need to adjust a carrier bearing.
The software has a great help section that I printed out.

You can enter all your data see what the results are then use the back button and make a change and run the analysis again to see how it changes the results.

I found you can only do this 1 time or the data is skewed, Just reload the page, reload the data as received and make a different change.

You will need a good digital angle finder, I bought mine at Sears for 40? bucks

I JUST NOTICED THERE IS A TYPO IN THE RESULTS, WHERE IT SAYS TO BE BELOW 300 AND 1000, IT SHOULD SAY BELOW 3.0 AND 1000 RESPECTIVELY

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Shame on the shops that failed to diagnose the pinion angle problem. I would think this would be one of the first things they would check.

Having lifted jeeps makes one well aware of driveline angles and related issues...
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Shame on the shops that failed to diagnose the pinion angle problem. I would think this would be one of the first things they would check.

Having lifted jeeps makes one well aware of driveline angles and related issues...
Yes Pretty Sad Story for a Driveline specialty shop, Truck Parts Specialists is the name in Memphis TN.

I have never seen such incompetence in all of my automotive career.

They never road tested it
They never took a single measurement
They simply removed my driveshafts, installed new Ujoints which I did not need, installed Carrier bearing which I did not need, and supposedly balanced my drive shafts, wasted an entire day of my vacation and raised my blood pressure to extreme levels.

Then handed me a bill for 1350.00 and sent me packing again with No road test.

Thank God for Credit card Protection.

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Yes Pretty Sad Story for a Driveline specialty shop, Truck Parts Specialists is the name in Memphis TN.


Then handed me a bill for 1350.00 and sent me packing again with No road test.

Thank God for Credit card Protection.

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oh yes we have had to use our two times this past trip to Wyoming
really surprised they never road tested the coach
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