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Old 05-20-2018, 10:36 AM   #1
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How to Tighten Lug Nuts

Im curious as to how the average DIY er's are tighting there Lug nuts
I added some pictures of what I came up with . Although Its time consuming and exhausting . And as yet Ive not reached the expected 400lbs of torque

I carry a 4x multiplyer in the coach and want to be sure all lugs are torqued equally . So what id did was weld 2 pieces of home bed frame together forming a 1 inch square . inserted it to a 1,5/8 socket . Reduced the 3/4 drive socket down to 1/2 inch to be able to use my 1/2 in drive Torque wrench

It does work but ive goten exhausetd tring to acheve 150 lbs per lug
I do have a compressor but its not strong enough to tighten these lugs . And if I did have one I could not fit it into a storage compartment any way.

Im looking for opinions as how others may handle this task
In the event a wheel would have to be removed . Without having to depend on road service
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Old 05-20-2018, 10:38 AM   #2
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can't say I've ever felt the need to tighten my lug nuts

but, if I did, I would just cruise into a local tire shop and let them hit all of them quickly, probably wouldn't even charge you
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Check out this video from RVGeeks. A little over half way through it, they find an issue with their wheel assemble and have to remove/install the tires and rims. The point is you get to see what tools it takes. SPOILER: to tighten, it’s about a 3ft torque wrench that the guy literally puts his entire body weight on. I might be inclined to roll into a truck facility, who probably has these tools. YMMV and Safe Travels.

https://youtu.be/oSUKnyuIhTY
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even a $20 charge would be a good and safe 'deal' for a professional to handle... easy.
(or a nice 'tip', if it happens to be free!)

while in British Columbia, on the way to Alaska, I pulled into Integra Tire, a professional 'big rig' tire shop, where they politely and quickly switched my two front drive tires, even without a scheduled 'reservation'. They charged me all of $35 US... a deal! And, they have the tools!
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I have thought of a tire shop . And if its free its for me .
Although I like the comfort of knowing . If I had to , I could
And , I sure wish I had a large wrench as shown in the video
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Im curious as to how the average DIY er's are tighting there Lug nuts
I added some pictures of what I came up with . Although Its time consuming and exhausting . And as yet Ive not reached the expected 400lbs of torque

I carry a 4x multiplyer in the coach and want to be sure all lugs are torqued equally . So what id did was weld 2 pieces of home bed frame together forming a 1 inch square . inserted it to a 1,5/8 socket . Reduced the 3/4 drive socket down to 1/2 inch to be able to use my 1/2 in drive Torque wrench

It does work but ive goten exhausetd tring to acheve 150 lbs per lug
I do have a compressor but its not strong enough to tighten these lugs . And if I did have one I could not fit it into a storage compartment any way.

Im looking for opinions as how others may handle this task
In the event a wheel would have to be removed . Without having to depend on road service
Hey Journey cat,
Well Partner, you're going about this all wrong. There's a very simple answer to all this. Yes, it's going to cost you some money, no doubt about that. Not too many diesel drivers mess with their own tires and wheels. They leave it to tire shops and emergency road service. Well for those of us that don't have any problem doing at least some of the work on our own diesel coaches, i.e brake inspections, extra special wheel polishing, wheel/hub seals, bearing maintenance and more, there's no two ways about it, you NEED the CORRECT tools.

You already have what's needed to remove the lug nuts, your torque multiplier. Now, you just need the correct tool to re-torque them. For this, I purchased, off ebay, a 100-600 ft. lb. click type, 3/4" drive torque wrench. It's made by KD, a fairly reputable brand. I got it for a whopping $75.00 including shipping. It had just be calibrated before I got it. That torque wrench is right close to 4' long.

Without a doubt, life would be much harder (like you're experiencing) without that torque wrench. Now, I know, I know what you're gonna say, "why spend that much for the limited time I'll be using it". Well, two things. One, you're already having a hard time with this endeavor and two, based on what it appears, you're gonna be doing this kind of thing for a while to come. So, get the right tools!

Now, I check every now and then on ebay for the same kind of deal I got and, without a doubt, they don't come by very often. But, even if I had to pay more when I got mine, I'd have done it, knowing how much I'd use it in the future. And boy have I used it. I don't remove those wheels every day. But, if and when I do, it's just very nice to know I've got what it takes to re-torque them to the proper specs of, 450 ft. lbs.

Now, also, you can jury-rig other ways of doing this but, for one, just how accurate is any other method? And, do you really want to NOT KNOW how well your 450 lb. lug nuts are tightened?

Anyway, enough blabbing for now. You get the point. And oh, by the way, there are some that think one can re-torque the lug nuts with the same tool that you and I have, the torque multiplier. Ain't gonna happen. There's no real way to judge just how much pressure to put on it, to achieve the correct torque value. On mine, which is a 75:1 ratio, I did some research on it and, based on its strength and gearing, it's quite capable of actually breaking those studs off. So, again, I wouldn't even try that method.
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Here's one example:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerbuilt-...cAAOSwQN5acbgg
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Thanks Scott I have looked on E bay , as you say . Not often And I am fimilliar with K&D i have some items from back in the 60's I will continue to keep a heads up for the right deal
Yours was used I assume for $75 But as its been said ,Theres a correct tool for every job Sad though , that it has to be 4 foot long !
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I subscribed to the search for a 3/4 inch And like the one you suggested
On another note . I like to buy something that would be more versitable But what would your opinion be on a 300lb wrench in conjuction with the multiplyer I already have
One like this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEKTON-2435....c100290.m3507
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tire work

As a truck mechanic,I purchased the some torque multiplier pictured,great tool.To tighten i found an old Matco dial torque wrench,made an extension for the handle making it 5 feet long. Now only takes 100 lbs on end of handle to reach torque,even a 70 year old can do it.
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As a truck mechanic,I purchased the some torque multiplier pictured,great tool.To tighten i found an old Matco dial torque wrench,made an extension for the handle making it 5 feet long. Now only takes 100 lbs on end of handle to reach torque,even a 70 year old can do it.

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I’ve seen some videos showing how to make sure/adjust your torque wrench to spec. I was thinking it might be worthy to somehow verify because, for example, what if your 100 ft/lb torque clicks at 107. Now, what if your 4X multiplier is really 4.5X. Wouldn’t that equate to 107x4.5= 481.5ft/lbs instead of 400ft/lbs? Maybe I’m figuring wrong or overthinking, but you wouldn’t want to snap anything off at those pressures. I’d be less worried if someone said, hey! they’ll go up to 600 before there’s a worry.
Thinking out loud.
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Thanks for the opinions ! Well ive made my decission . Ill just help fill the $ pit we all own
Having love for all things mechanical . And no faith what so ever in having shops doing what I can do . Ill bite the bullet on the correct tool for the job . As working with a multiplyer , calucating for errors , working with added weight is added stress Of course there is always more than one way to skin the cat . Its not something that will be used every day but its nice to know one has what is needed to do things correctlly. Ill sleep better knowing ive done all i could to minimise problems while enjoying the ride
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As mentioned above, a torque multiplier is fine for removing nuts - but do not use it to install. The torque is critical as it stretches the stud and if it is wrong the wheel can come loose or the stud can be damaged. A torque multiplier is not accurate enough for tightening critical parts.

I use this. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's not cheap but neither is having a wheel come off. And this one is high enough quality to use to torque a main bearing cap or head bolt.
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Well I see this is ultimately going to cost more than I originally thought !
I have seen those varable length ones . And they would be more versatlile to own.
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