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03-21-2019, 07:44 PM
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Pin weight
I am soooo excited! I may have found a used New Horizons to purchase. But I am trying to research the pin weight. Can anyone help me? It's a 2011 Majestic 35RETSS.
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03-22-2019, 08:19 AM
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Location: Michigan
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Figure 20% of the loaded trailer weight as pin weight. NADA shows dry weight just over 16K. Loaded, I'd call it 18K and a pin of 3500 lb as a rough estimate.
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03-22-2019, 11:32 AM
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16,000 lbs sounds a bit light for a New Horizons Majestic. Depending on the options they can be VERY heavy. Depending on the layout, they can have extremely high pin weight. Mine is 23,500 lbs loaded with 4600 lbs pin weight (its only 6 feet longer than the one you're looking at).
What are you planning to pull it with? You will need a 1 ton dually at minimum to pull a New Horizons.
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03-23-2019, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burrington
16,000 lbs sounds a bit light for a New Horizons Majestic. Depending on the options they can be VERY heavy. Depending on the layout, they can have extremely high pin weight. Mine is 23,500 lbs loaded with 4600 lbs pin weight (its only 6 feet longer than the one you're looking at).
What are you planning to pull it with? You will need a 1 ton dually at minimum to pull a New Horizons.
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You are correct: the weight of the New Horizons I'm looking at is 22,500. I found a RAM 3500 that is rated to pull over 29,000, with rear axle rated at over 9,000.
Thank you very much for your reply! I think I have found my answer and have decided to go with a 5th wheel hitch rated at 25,000 on rails.
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03-23-2019, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve52
Figure 20% of the loaded trailer weight as pin weight. NADA shows dry weight just over 16K. Loaded, I'd call it 18K and a pin of 3500 lb as a rough estimate.
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Thank you for replying to my post. I am trying to learn everything I can before making the move!
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03-23-2019, 02:33 PM
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29K is not going to be the limiting factor. The 9K for the rear axle might be. Our 39' Summit with 4 slides was just weighed in at 8800 on the drive axle. This includes a Comfort Ride hitch for towing. My 17 F350 has a 9900 LB. limit. If your buying from a private party perhaps you can make a deal to weight the truck with a full fuel tank for some peace of mind.
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03-23-2019, 03:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stacysu
You are correct: the weight of the New Horizons I'm looking at is 22,500. I found a RAM 3500 that is rated to pull over 29,000, with rear axle rated at over 9,000.
Thank you very much for your reply! I think I have found my answer and have decided to go with a 5th wheel hitch rated at 25,000 on rails.
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Pulling the load is not going to be your problem. Heck a 2500 diesel can pull that much easily. Load carrying capacity is going to be your challange. In all honesty if I was shopping that heavy of a fiver I would give serious consideration to buying a MDT. You can find nice used MDTs set up for RV use probably cheaper than what your going to spend on a new dually. If thats not to your liking, skip anybodies 3500 and go for a 4500 or maybe a 5500 dually. You wont regret it.
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03-23-2019, 11:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stacysu
You are correct: the weight of the New Horizons I'm looking at is 22,500. I found a RAM 3500 that is rated to pull over 29,000, with rear axle rated at over 9,000.
Thank you very much for your reply! I think I have found my answer and have decided to go with a 5th wheel hitch rated at 25,000 on rails.
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The other thing you need to check is the GVWR of the 3500. You can not exceed the GVWR of the truck with the trailer's pin weight loaded. Load your truck with everything and everybody you intend to haul. Take it to the scale and subtract the total scale weight from the GVWR. That gives you the available payload. If the trailer pin weight is less than the available payload, you're good to go. If not, you have a problem that can only be solved by reducing the pin weight, reducing the truck's weight, or using a different truck.
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