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brobox · 04-01-2015, 05:12 AM

No wonder they are "out of stock." Even with the $31.87 added for shipping, it's still a good price and a WIX filter to boot.

Looking at the company more closely, they are a surplus company. I wonder if they are out dated filters? There is a disclaimer under "condition" That this may be a factory second or damaged. No wonder it was too good to be true.

Steve Ownby · 04-01-2015, 07:37 AM

Don't be concerned with the brand of the filter or spend time looking for a particular brand. There Eco and Ecolite canister filters are designed and manufacturered by Farr. The "brands" are all due to private labeling.

Steve Ownby
Full time since '07

dennis45 · 04-01-2015, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Ownby

Don't be concerned with the brand of the filter or spend time looking for a particular brand. There Eco and Ecolite canister filters are designed and manufacturered by Farr. The "brands" are all due to private labeling.

Steve Ownby
Full time since '07

Good point Steve. The real concern, aside from price, is the date code.

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MRUSA14 · 04-01-2015, 03:18 PM

According to Spartan, these should be changed every year or two regardless of what the filter minder says. The reason is that the paper elements are glued together. The glue gets brittle with age. If the glue joint fails, the paper element fragments and goes into your turbocharger which is spinning at about 30,000 RPM. You don't want to buy a new turbocharger. Much cheaper to change the air filter.

palehorse89 · 04-01-2015, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MRUSA14

According to Spartan, these should be changed every year or two regardless of what the filter minder says. The reason is that the paper elements are glued together. The glue gets brittle with age. If the glue joint fails, the paper element fragments and goes into your turbocharger which is spinning at about 30,000 RPM. You don't want to buy a new turbocharger. Much cheaper to change the air filter.

Hi Marc, wondering where Spartan got this maintenance information for the air cleaner that is feeding a Cummins engine? I would think the engine builder would have better information than the chassis builder....? I know you most likely heard this at the Spartan training class???
This is some good reading on this subject,( http://www.irv2.com/forums/f123/rebu...er-180423.html )I felt sorry for the OP

Pay attention to post #6 and then post#12

Here is a picture of mine, after 5 years/30k miles, cut it open, still looked new, glue was still in place and hard, not cracked, changed out.
I read/follow Spike45 posts.........have to respect his years of learning/knowledge in this field

. A new filter is not efficient till it has a good coating of dust on the filter media....... then it starts to protect your engine. The filter minders are there for this purpose and to give you a visual on your filters restriction.
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TerryO · 04-01-2015, 04:42 PM

Palehorse if that's your old filter I must be living in the wrong part of the world. After one year mine is showing replace on the indicator and its filthy. I try to stay out of caliche parking lots but sometimes it can't be helped and the amount of dust that gets thrown up is like a small thunder storm cloud. I'll normally kill the generator and the dash air to reduce the amount of dust being blown up but still I don't think I'll ever have to worry about my filter getting to old.

palehorse89 · 04-01-2015, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TerryO

Palehorse if that's your old filter I must be living in the wrong part of the world. After one year mine is showing replace on the indicator and its filthy. I try to stay out of caliche parking lots but sometimes it can't be helped and the amount of dust that gets thrown up is like a small thunder storm cloud. I'll normally kill the generator and the dash air to reduce the amount of dust being blown up but still I don't think I'll ever have to worry about my filter getting to old.

My lord Terry

I like to travel the "Back road's" also, but you need to at least get off the Dirt Road's and get on pavement

I admit, I let it go longer than I should of, and the filter is structurally OK, and if I remember right , the minder was at 15"WC.
and, you are not in the wrong area Terry, mine sat all winter 3'+ snow, temps down to -20(Climate controlled garage), I would like to be where you are.......even if it means changing my air filter once a year!

hogdriver · 04-01-2015, 04:49 PM

No kidding Terry. I pulled into (at 5mph) a Kansas religious campground with dirt roads last year. It was dry, dry, dry. With my Genny running there was huge billowing clouds of dust. I have since learned when arriving at a locale and about to go "off roading", I shutdown all the AC units and the genny and tip toe into my spot.

jerichorick · 04-01-2015, 05:27 PM

Great information all ready posted. Racor has a 3 year shelf life and a 5 year service life. The engine manufactures are usually very conservative here and recommend 2 years. I opt for the 5 or indicator warning.

To change just loosen the bands on the rubber boots and use a screw driver or the likes to snap the metal band clips open.

Before you start clean as much of the loose dust off the filter and area around it. You don't want that stuff getting into your engine.

Happy trails,

Rick Y

jerichorick · 04-02-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MRUSA14

According to Spartan, these should be changed every year or two regardless of what the filter minder says. The reason is that the paper elements are glued together. The glue gets brittle with age. If the glue joint fails, the paper element fragments and goes into your turbocharger which is spinning at about 30,000 RPM. You don't want to buy a new turbocharger. Much cheaper to change the air filter.

I don't have my email communications handy with the manufacturer, but as I stated in post #23. Racor/Farr sees thing differently. I questioned them about the filters that came unglued. Though they were within the date spec, the glue used was defective. None of the defective filters are available from reputable dealers. The coach/chassis manufacturers want to be held liable for a bad filter so they recommend frequent replacement. The choice is up to the individual RV owner now. I am going for the longer change interval. The serves hours in 4 or 5 years is just not that severe.

Happy trails.

Rick Y

fred2137 · 09-24-2015, 06:01 AM

i have Entegra Conerstone 2013 and how i suppose to remove the air filter engine

757driver · 09-24-2015, 08:07 AM

One other tip to add on the filter change is to remove the clamp holding the transmission and oil dip sticks to give a little more wiggle room when swapping the filters out.

jerichorick · 09-25-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fred2137

i have Entegra Conerstone 2013 and how i suppose to remove the air filter engine

Always glad to see a new poster. Welcome. My first suggestion to you is to go the the "Users CP" near the top of the page on the left. There you can post a signature to tell us more about yourself and equipment. Helps as we try to answer your questions among other things.

Happy trails,
Rick Y