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Old 01-12-2017, 03:02 PM   #43
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Sounds like you have the exact symptoms of the faulty radiator... call spartan with your photos and ask for help

I'm having the same symptoms. It started about 8 months ago. Less than a cup of coolant every 500 - 750 miles. Couldn't see any eveidence of a leak, hot or cold, no visible signs. Started talking with Mark at Spartan who documented my concern and has since left Spartan. A few months later, picked up the conversation again with Charlie, who now has left Spartan. Just this week I sent pictures of what looks like moisture inside the fan shroud to Michael Flowers at Spartan who said without a pressure test, there's no sure way to determine if it's leaking or not. So I am hoping to get it Pressure tested next week at Cummings Mid-South Jackson MS, even though they are not a Spartan Service Center, and can't replace the radiator, but at least will confirm whether it a radiator issue or something else.
I agree that Spartan should have stepped up and done a recall on this given the amount of issues many have had with these radiators.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:04 PM   #44
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This radiator problem really sucks. I have never been able to see any sign of a leak anywhere but over the course of 20,000 miles I recently realized I have put in almost a gallon of coolant. Just a little bit at a time to keep the level in the middle of the glass when cold and on the level jacks. Sort of a mystery as I know the closed system should not loose any coolant at all but there is no sign of loss on the ground, into the oil or anywhere else

Then, sitting in my driveway in the snow at 8 below there is a 6 inch pink diameter circle under the rear of the radiator. Not a hint of a leak anywhere that I could find but the pink in the snow is troubling. Took to the road with extra coolant on board. 2200 mile later there is no sign of coolant leakage at 75 degrees when cold. I spent way too long on my back with a mag lite and mirror and cannot find a thing. Hose clamps seem fine. Gently snugged them despite no sign of leak from any joint.

Definitely out of warranty but Spartan already offered to help with the parts if I cover the labor if it is the radiator. But....so far doesn't look like the radiator. The take away here is to document with Spartan as soon as you notice any coolant usage or symptoms of a leak. I never thought to mention the steady coolant adds but did get a suspect leak on record with them at this point. If you do it during your warranty period you have much more recourse if a leak occurs later on out of warranty.

The other real problem with coolant loss was leakage at the EGR cooler where the engine coolant is used to cool the portion of exhaust gas being reintroduced as EGR.

I pressurized the system at 75 ambient and see no leaks on the ground or loss of pressure and no sign of smoke or steam from the exhaust on startup after the pressure test.

So.....the pink puddle in the snow at 8 below is a big mystery. I'm getting tired of finding and re-engineering stuff I spent 40 years doing. I thought this was going to be more fun. End of rant.
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This leak could be caused by the cold temperature. When temp is below freezing it is fairly common for leaks to develop at the hose connections. The metal gets cold and shrinks, allowing the fluid to leak. This can be corrected by tightening the hose clamps (better to do this when cold, as they will tighten themselves as the temp rises and the metal expands).
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A few months later, picked up the conversation again with Charlie, who now has left Spartan.
Are you saying Charlie Fisher has left Spartan?
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Are you saying Charlie Fisher has left Spartan?

Yep, unfortunately Charlie "has left the building."
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That is not good news. Charlie was a heck of an asset to Spartan's CS.
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That is not good news. Charlie was a heck of an asset to Spartan's CS.
As was Mark Collett.
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Yep, I understand Paul. I did snug the clamps when it was cold. There was basically no slack in them and I did not see any sign of coolant pushed up at the hose joints. Luckily it was in my driveway so diving under it with a snowmobile suit after digging out the driveway was nothing unusual. I cannot even see any coolant residue or sign of coolant anywhere even though there is pink on the ground.

Indeed it is bad news that Charlie Fischer is gone from Spartan!
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Well I just got the estimate back from the local Spartan service center. $4800 P&L to replace the defective radiator in my 2013 Anthem. 11 months out of warranty and Spartan said too bad. I even had the service center call a beg on my behalf to no avail.
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Well I just got the estimate back from the local Spartan service center. $4800 P&L to replace the defective radiator in my 2013 Anthem. 11 months out of warranty and Spartan said too bad. I even had the service center call a beg on my behalf to no avail.
What a shame for a known defect. For those of us that don't put many miles on per year, that is a scary thought.
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Well I just got the estimate back from the local Spartan service center. $4800 P&L to replace the defective radiator in my 2013 Anthem. 11 months out of warranty and Spartan said too bad. I even had the service center call a beg on my behalf to no avail.
what a joke.. they should replace everybody's radiator who fall within the timeframe of being built with bad ones.. sure makes me look at spartan differently and how there company is ran...
I hope spartan reads these forums and realizes this is a big black mark on there report card... just because they don't leak right away means the owner is faced with a 5 thousand dollar bill down the road... complete dis justice to there customer...
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A know issue, the radiators are defective, and Spartan should do the right thing - fix it.
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